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नारी प्रति गिद्धे दृष्टि त्याग गर !
नारी पृथ्वी हुन् l नारीको हृदय बिशाल हुन्छ र ममताकी खानी हुन् l उनिसंग सहनशीलता र धैर्यता छ l प्रशान्त महासागर झैँ शान्त स्वभाव भएकै कारण यिनीलाई पृथ्वीसंग तुलना गरिन्छ l भनिन्छ हजारौ काल अघि नारी प्रधान समाज थियो l यिनै पुरुषहरुको जालझेल र छलकपटबाट नारीहरुलाई किनारा लगाउदै बिकुल फुकी पुरुष प्रधान समाज भनि स्व : घोषणा गरे l पुरुष प्रधान देश भनि केहि मुलुकलाई उच्चारण गरिएता पनि एक्काईसौ शताब्दीमा यो कुराले मान्यता प्राप्त गर्दैन किनभने हरेक मुलुक बिकासको चरम बिन्दुमा पुगी सकेका छन् र यस्तो सोचाईमा अल्मलिदैनन l
नारी र पुरुष समान छन् ,नारी न त पुरुष भन्दा ठुली छे न पुरुष नारी भन्दा साना छन्,न नारी उच्च छे या न नारी निचा छे किनभने नारीको आफ्नै आत्म सम्मान र पृथक पहिचान छ lउ बिना त जीवनको चक्र नै चल्दैन lभनिन्छ जुन घरमा नारी हुदैनन् त्यो घरमा भगवानले पनि बास गर्दैनन् l नारी रुपमा हामीले कैयौ ईस्वरको रुपमा पुज्दछौ lयहि नै सवालको जवाफ हो lहिन्दु धर्म शास्त्र अनुसार पौराणिक कालमा गार्गीले त्यस समयका प्रकाण्ड विद्वान र ऋषि मुनिहरुलाई तर्क र बिबेकले हराएको बिबेचना गरिएको छ अनि नारी कसरि पुरुष भन्दा पछाडी हुन्छे lनारी स्नेह कि खानी, सहनशीलता कि साक्षात देबीकि रुप हुन् lनारी, जसलाई समाजको आधा आकाशका रुपमा हामी मान्दछौ ,कयौं नारीहरु पुरुषलाई उछिनेर एक कदम अगाडी पुगिसकेका छन् l पितृसत्तात्मक सोच र चिन्तनका खाल ओडेका पुरुषहरुको दानबी हर्कत कारण हजारौ बर्ष देखि कैयौ चेलीबेटी चरम यातनाका सिकार भएका छन् l तिरस्कारका अनगिन्ती आशुहरु पिउदै जिउन बिबस नारीहरु बाध्य पारिएका छन l तर समयले फड्को हानी सकेको छ र पुरुषको यहि संकुचित सोचको कारण नारी पटक पटक आक्रमणको सिकार हुन् पुग्दछन l पुरुषले नारी प्रतिको गिद्दे दृस्टी त्याग नगरे सम्म नारीले मुक्ति पाउन समय लाग्ने हुन्छ l
मार्च १९१० मा डेनमार्कको राजधानी कोपेनहेगनमा चीन, डोमेनिकन गणतन्त्र, अमेरिका ,ब्राजिल आदि १७ वटा देशका करिब १ सय जना महिला अधिकारकर्मीले 'महिलाविरुद्धको सामाजिक सोचमा परिवर्तन हुनुपर्छ, महिलाहरूले पनि सामाजिक, आर्थिक एवं राजनीतिक क्षेत्रमा पुरुषसरह अधिकार पाउनुपर्छ भनि गरेको सम्मेलन पनि १०० बर्ष पुगी सक्दा पनि महिला हिँसाका घटनाहरु न्युनतम हुन् सकेका छैनन् lमुलकुमा नारी हकहित सम्बन्धि अधिकासं कानुन र नियम निर्माण भै सके पनि ब्यबहारिक रुपमा कम्जोर छ र अझ पनि नारीलाई हेर्ने दृष्टिकोणमा आकास जमिनको फरक आएको छैन l महिला हिंसाको शिकार भै रहेका छन् lप्रधान मन्त्रि निवास ,बालुवाटारमा बिरोध र नाराबाझी भै रहदा पनि महिला प्रताडितको शिलशिला यथावत छ l चेलीबेटीले सुरक्षित महसुस गरि रहेका छैनन l बिहान हिडेकी छोरी बेलुका साँझ सम्म घर जनयुद्द काल झैँ फर्किन्छन कि फर्कीदैनन् भनि अभिभावक एकाग्रताको साथ प्रतीक्षा गरि रहेका हुन्छन lसुदुर पश्चिममा मानिने छाउपडीको कारण शिक्षित महिला नै पिढित छन् र घटना घटी रहेको रहेको छ l यसमा समाजका भनाउदा ठुला ठालुले जबर्जस्त लाद्ने कामको सहयोग गरि रहेका छन् l
प्रशासन मुक दर्शक भएर हेर्न बाध्य हुन्छ किनभने २०६३ पछि सबै कार्यकर्ता नेता भएका छन् र सबैलाई प्रजातन्त्र लागेको छ l माथि आफ्नो पहुच भन्दै कारवाई गर्नेलाई सरुवाको पुर्जी थमाई दिने भन्दै सन्त्रासको वातावरण बनिदैछ lदानब स्वभाव भएका पुरुष ,आफ्नो सोच र बिचारमा परिवर्तन गर्न नसकेका पुरुषको कारण नारीहरु आतंकित छन् l जब सम्म यस्ता राक्षसी प्रवृति भएकाहरु समाजमा रहन्छन यस्ता कुकृत्य घटनाहरु घट्ने सम्भावना रही रहने हुन्छ lहास्मीलाई जिउदै जलाईएको घटनाले समस्त नेपालीलाई स्तब्ध बनाएको छ र नारी प्रतिको पुरुषको हेराई गिद्दे दृस्टीमा परिणत हुदैछ l
नारी प्रति पुरुषको सद्भाव र श्रदा सदैब उच्च रहनु पर्छ किनभने नारी कसैको छोरी ,कसैको बुहारी र कसैको आमा र कसैको दिदि तथा बहिनि हुन्छिन l भारतको दिल्लीमा घटेको घटनाले विश्वलाई रुवाई दिएको छ र संसार शोक मग्न छ lयस्तो कहिले नहोस् र नदोहोरियोस भनि एक ढिक्का भएका छन् lपिडित मृत २३ बर्षिय एक होनहार भारत आमाकी छोरी घोषणा भएकी छिन् र हृदयमा अनगिन्ती सपना बोकेर हिडेकी त्यो रात कालको मुखमा परिन l भारतमा नया बर्ष २०१३ नमनाउने घोषणा गरे र विदेशमा समेत मनाएनन केवल शुभचिन्तकहरु न्यायकि मुर्तिको फैसला सुन्न लालायित छन् l संलग्न आरोपित पितृ सतात्मक सोच र चिन्तनबाट ग्रषित त्यी दानबहरु को गीद्दे दृस्टी कारण सिकारमा परिन lबलिवुडका सम्राट साहरुख खानले उक्त घटनाको टिप्पणी गर्दै आफु पुरुष भएकोमा लाज छ भनि विचार पोखिदिए l यो घटना सेलाउन नपाउदै दुई ठाउमा यस्तै घटना घटी रहेको संचार माध्यममा आएको छ l
यो घटनाले मेरो मानस पटलमा नेपाल आमाको एक सच्चा बिर र बहादुर छोरा बिष्णु श्रेष्ठको संस्मरण गरायो lचलचित्रमा भएको जस्तो नायक आई त्यो निर्दोष बालिकाको अस्मिता कसैले पनि बचाउन प्राणको बाजी लगाएनन र बिष्णु श्रेष्ठ जस्तो हजारौ छोराहरु नेपाल आमाले यस धर्तीमा जन्माउनु पर्दछ भनि यो पंक्तिकारको मस्तिस्कमा उब्जियो l बिष्णु श्रेष्ठ भारतीय सेनामा कार्यरत पोखरा निवासी सिपाही हुन् lभारतीय सेनामा धेरै बर्ष सेवा गरि निबृतिवरण( अवकास प्राप्त )लिई नेपाल फर्कने क्रममा केहि बर्ष अगाडी भारतको गोरखपुर नजिक ४० जना डाकाले आफु चढेको रेलमा मच्चाएको आतंक र एक युवती प्रति गरेको दानवीय ब्यबहारले कहिले नझुक्ने गोर्खालीको सच्चा सन्तान बनि नेपाल तथा नेपालीको शिर ठाडो पर्ने कामले गरे lउनीले देखाएको बहादुरता र साहसको उच्च कदर गर्दै भारत सरकारले सौर्यचक्र, बहादुरी पदक र सर्बोत्तम जीवनरक्षा पदकबाट सम्मान गरेको छ lबिष्णु श्रेष्ठले एक युवती प्रति डाकाहरुले गर्न खोजेको अपमानजनक कुकृत्य ,आफ्नो मातापिताको सामुने अस्मिता लुट्न खोज्ने र चिकित्षा बिषयमा अध्ययनको तैयारीमा यात्रामा हिडेकी युवती प्रति देखाएको पासविक हर्कत तथा उनको चित्कारले वीर गोर्खालीको मन थाम्न सकेनल आफ्नो जीवनको पर्वाह नगरी केवल नारी मुक्ति र नारीको अस्मिता जोगाउनुबाहेक कुनै बिकल्प नरही ४० जनाको जत्थासंग केवल खुकुरीको भरमा विकासे मुलाकाटे झैँ काटी कोतपर्व झैँ रगतको खोलो बगाए पश्च्यात डाकाहरु घुंडा टेक्न बाध्य भए l श्रेष्ठ जसले नारी अत्याचार सहन सकेन र टुलुटुलु मुकदर्शक भएर कायरताको परिचय दिएन ,केवल महिला प्रति श्रद्दा भक्ति र चेलीबेटी प्रति देखाएको सम्मानले उनि सदैब हाम्रो हृदयमा छन् l
प्रश्न यहाँ एक नारीको हो ,नारीको लागि अन्जान दाजुले गरेको अदम्य साहसको कदर गर्दै ठुलो रकम दिदा पनि स्वीकार नगरी बैनी जस्तो ठानेको अभिव्यक्तिले बिष्णुको उचाई बढ्यो lगीद्दे दृस्टी राख्नेलाई ठुलो पाठ भयो र कानुनको कठघरमा आए lनारी प्रति गिद्दे दृस्टी राख्नेलाई कानुनको फन्दामा पर्ने छन् lनारी एक अभिभावक पनि हुन् आफ्नो ज्यान जोखिममा राखी अमेरिकाको कनेक्टिकट पाठशालामा २७ जनाको ज्यानमा आफ्नो प्राणको आहुति दिई साना साना बिद्यार्थीको ज्यान बचाईन lनारीको मुल्यांकन असिमित छ र उच्च छ lनारी प्रति देखाउनु पर्ने सद्भाव र श्रदाको खडेरी लागेको छ lनारीलाई केवल वस्तुसंग तुलना गर्न गर्ने सोच परिवर्तन गर्नु पर्ने हुन्छ l
जब सम्म पितृसत्तात्मक समाज भन्ने सोच र चिन्तनको अन्त्य गर्न सबै समाज एक ढिक्का हुदैनन् तब सम्म नारीहरुलाई हेर्ने दृस्टीकोण तुलनात्मक रुपमा परिवर्तन हुदैन lमहिलाले पुरुषको सेवा गरे मेवा पाइन्छ भन्ने धार्मिक ग्रन्थहरूले पुस्तौंदेखि महिलालाई पुरुषको अधीनमा राखेको पाइन्छ। जब सम्म महिलालाई शिक्षित र आर्थिक रुपमा सशक्तिकरण गरिने वातावरणको सिर्जना गरिदैन ,तब सम्म महिला सशक्तिकरणको मूल ढोका पुरै नखुल्ने हुन्छ lनेपाल सरकारले महिला हिंसा अन्त्यका लागि लैंगिक हिंसा मुक्त दिवस मनाउने घोषणा गरेको छ जो अत्यन्तै सराहनीय छ सर्वत्र चर्चाको बिषय भएको छ तर घोषणा र दिवस मनाउने कार्यक्रमले मात्र समस्याको हल नहुने हुन्छ यसको लागि पुरुषको ब्यबहार र सोचलाई जरा देखि उखाली फ्याल्नु पर्दछ l
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Posted on 01-27-13 10:30
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Metta your arguments are very weak, fickle and illogical, and it only serves to show your blind prejudiced views.
You say " You mean we need to be practical because men get attracted when they see beautiful skin and can't control their man. So you shouldn't punish those men, but instead we should training women to wear burqas and cover all their body because if they get raped, it's not men's fault, it's ALWAYS the fault of women because they don't understand the issue of idealism and realism."
You are trying to force your own words as mine. I never said any of those things! If you go back and read my statements. I , in fact said the following
"These men are not fit to live in a civilized world and they should get the harshest punishment there is in the land. They do not have any right to impose themselves physically onto anyone."
If having unprotected sex can lead to sexual transmitted disease, then you have to smart about it and have protected sex. That does not mean you never have sex. You just have to be smart about it.
If you do not want to follow a logical and reasonable discussion then I'm done with you. Do not draw your own conclusions and think you are 100% correct. Your foregone conclusions only point to your own inability to see logical arguments.
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Posted on 01-28-13 5:41
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Metta your arguments are very weak, fickle and illogical, and it only serves to show your blind prejudiced views.
- Exactly, talibans and Saudis think their system is the most strong and rational ones, and others have prejudiced views and they shut their door and refused to open any discussions.
You are trying to force your own words as mine. I never said any of those things! If you go back and read my statements. I , in fact said the following
- Did I say that you wrote above? I wrote above to infer what I got from your most logical, rational and unprejudiced views.
"These men are not fit to live in a civilized world and they should get the harshest punishment there is in the land. They do not have any right to impose themselves physically onto anyone."
- I do agree with you on this.
If having unprotected sex can lead to sexual transmitted disease, then you have to smart about it and have protected sex. That does not mean you never have sex. You just have to be smart about it.
- Bring on more oranges to compare with the apples!
If you do not want to follow a logical and reasonable discussion then I'm done with you.
- No problem.
Do not draw your own conclusions and think you are 100% correct.
- You are trying to force your own words as mine.
Your foregone conclusions only point to your own inability to see logical arguments.
- Of course, your conclusions are only the correct ones, and everyone else have false beliefs and illogical conclusions. Only you have the ability to make logical arguments.
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Metta, your responses are beginning to reek of hypocrisy.
You say " - Of course, your conclusions are only the correct ones, and everyone else have false beliefs and illogical conclusions. Only you have the ability to make logical arguments. "
You are the one who is in a rush to draw conclusions, all I did was offer my opinion about how it might be, perhaps, maybe, a good idea to do so and so thing in so and so circumstance. Maybe you are not bright enough to differentiate a conclusion from a suggestion.
You are the one who draws your final conclusions by saying something like
" You mean we need to be practical because men get attracted when they see beautiful skin and can't control their man. So you shouldn't punish those men, but instead we should training women to wear burqas and cover all their body because if they get raped, it's not men's fault, it's ALWAYS the fault of women because they don't understand the issue of idealism and realism."
It seems like you have a difficult time understanding simple English.
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Posted on 01-29-13 11:23
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Committing heinous crimes like rape reflects a person's lack of judgment and retarded state of mind. The notion that women exposing their body parts causes a perpetrator to commit rape is a load of baloney. A rapist would commit it regardless. Only a sick bastard would think of forcing a woman into having a physical intercourse w/o her consent and/or interest, upon seeing her in a sexy outfit.
What about the young woman raped in Delhi or rapes that take place in Police stations, let alone rural villages and other parts.
All that said, there's no denying that wearing sexy outfits and/or revealing one's body parts is primarily done to seek attention. It's natural for human beings to try and attract people of opposite sexes. People wear makeup, wear nice clothes, try to appear attractive and sexy to attract people of other sexes. But, nobody tries to look sexy and attractive in hopes of gaining undesirable attention of perverts and rapists.
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Posted on 01-29-13 11:43
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Riddle, I agree with you, and my point being it might not be a good idea to wear revealing clothes in dimly lit areas or bad part of town.
Everything in life is not black and white, there are lot of grey areas. When you take some medicine, there are possible side effects. Maybe one in a 100 will have bad reaction to a medicine, so if you don't want to risk that, you might want to take a different medicine.
That's all I am saying.
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Posted on 01-29-13 11:49
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Rethink, saying that it's not a good idea for a woman to walk around wearing sexy outfits in 'dimly lit areas' or 'bad part of town' isn't really saying much, is it? It's kinda like somebody saying how smoking heroine or snorting coke is a bad idea. It's rare for any woman to do that, even in the U.S. or any developed nation.
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Posted on 01-29-13 12:00
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Riddle, I know I'm not saying much, but i'm just saying it. Just like you said "It's kinda like somebody saying how smoking heroine or snorting coke is a bad idea."
Yes it's something like that but there's nothing wrong with saying it. People still keep smoking heroine and snorting coke, even though it's bad for them. One day it might prove to be just bad timing.
Same thing with what I am saying - that one day it might just be bad timing so exercise caution.
Now chill, and stop smoking heroine, snorting coke, and wearing revealing clothes in wrong places
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Posted on 01-30-13 4:41
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Seriously I think this metta is a homosexual who doesn't get aroused by sexy women wearing revealing clothes.
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Posted on 01-30-13 5:28
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How many times do you think the rapes are instigated by the women wearing revealing clothes in Nepal? From the news I posted, most of these rape incidents are occurring in much rural places where it's very unlikely to have the modern women you're imagining.
Yes, I don't understand english, can't make a logical argument, have prejudiced views, and second opinion of smart people like Thakre.
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Posted on 01-30-13 6:22
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This is getting really pathetic. Let's break it up for analysis. We both agree that rape is one of the worst crimes. Rapists need to get severe punishment.
My point: If there is any chance that wearing revealing clothes may encourage people to rape, under certain circumstances then, maybe it would be wise for women to exercise caution depending upon where they are going be at.
I am not saying, don't wear revealing clothes. I am saying if you are going to be in a dark place or bad part of town, walking alone, then perhaps it might not be a good idea to wear such attire.
Are you saying that it's fine for women to walk alone in dark places or bad pat of town wearing skimpy clothes? You don't think it's risky in any way???
If you think it's fine for your sisters, mother, daughters to walk alone in revealing clothes in those places, then I give up! You win, let's not argue any more!
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Posted on 01-30-13 6:29
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I think mothers, wives, girlfriends and sisters are best not brought up in discussions of this nature. You don't need to talk about thers' relatives to get your points across. Lets all act like adults, shall we?
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Posted on 01-30-13 6:38
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Riddle I would not bring it up but this guys is acting too holier than thou art. I wanna know if he is fine with his own close relatives doing it or not. I think it is a valid question at this point in the discussion.
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Posted on 01-30-13 6:49
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My point: If there is any chance that wearing revealing clothes may encourage people to rape, under certain circumstances then, maybe it would be wise for women to exercise caution depending upon where they are going be at.
- There is already enough talk and advice blaming what women should and shouldn't do to prevent it. Indian baba even went far enough to blame gang bus rape victim. Why can't we simply blame the men? People (articles on onlinekhabar) are blaming short clothes, porn movies, vulgarity in nepali movies, western culture for the rape. They even emphasize on these points by making these arguments as headlines. But the reality is very different. I doubt if any of the cases are prompted by the women wearing revealing clothes. I don't hear much about the rapes in cities where women wear such clothes. It is taking place mostly in rural places in the case of Nepal. If you want to go further and say that men couldn't control after seeing the modern women in cities, I don't have much argument to make here.
Are you saying that it's fine for women to walk alone in dark places or bad pat of town wearing skimpy clothes? You don't think it's risky in any way???
- Please tell me how often you hear in the news about rapes taking place in such dark places or because women were walking alone with these clothes in the case of NEPAL? Can you see what's going on there? I'm talking about NEPAL. I think women know much better and they don't take such risks. Of course, it's risky; I'm not denying that. But what I disagree with is people going on giving advice to women saying what they should or shouldn't do by giving bigger emphasis on women's behaviors while completely ignoring men's behaviors.
Don't try to bring unrelated your LOGICAL examples by dragging family members. I won't be responding to these. I thought you were logical and smart.
Listen, I don't care about winning or losing the argument. It's not about winning the argument. It's about seeing reality. I am not disagreeing with something logical you're saying. It's sad that you're seeing this as win or lose.
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Posted on 01-30-13 6:54
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You're not only the smartest and logical guy; I may be illogical and I may not understand english as you said so. But women are not necessarily less smart. As I said women know much better. If you want to hear from me, I would also say it is risky and it is not ok to walk alone in dark roads, let alone wearing revealing clothes. What I am saying is that rape is not being taking place in these dark places or because of women wearing such clothes.
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Posted on 01-30-13 7:08
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You said "Of course, it's risky"
That's all I wanted to hear. Thank you! Thank you for finally answering me directly instead of beating around the bush and copy pasting hundred different rape news.
You do not have to tell anyone how bad it is. Everyone knows it already. There could be hundreds of reasons that rape happens, and those are all in the mind of the rapist. You don't know what it is, and I don't know what it is, and there is no excuse for that at all. Women are not responsible for rape in any way, shape or form.
You cannot compartmentalize your logic to suit your own needs. For example in Nepal people say don't drink cold water when you're sick, but in the US it's fine to drink cold water at any time. In Nepal people say don't eat yogurt when you have cough, but in US, it's fine to eat yogurt at any time.
So, if I was in Nepal, i would not drink cold water there when I was not feeling well, but in the US i don't mind drinking it at any time. So you do have to act according to the environment you are in.
It's not about winning or losing, but it seemed like you were arguing for the sake of arguing and not really trying to follow any logic. But finally you seemed to have chosen logic and reasoning over generalizations and more generalizations. You do not need to re-assert general concensus. Congratulations!
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Posted on 01-30-13 7:20
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Women are not responsible for rape in any way, shape or form.
- Absolutely right.
It's not about winning or losing, but it seemed like you were arguing for the sake of arguing and not really trying to follow any logic.
- It seemed you know enough about me now. You're right I can't follow your logic, and couldn't follow relevance of your example of water here.
So you do have to act according to the environment you are in.
- Of course, everyone knows it. As you said, I or you don't know the reasons for rapes. The reason I posted these rape news is to show that it's not happening because of not acting according to the environment, at least not because of walking alone in dark roads alone or because of wearing short clothes, in these cases. Again, I don't know it, you might be right that it's happening because of their inability to act according to the environment. But it didn't appear so to me, and I posted the news to give the reality of rape cases taking place so often in Nepal.
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Posted on 01-30-13 7:33
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I am not going to scour the internet looking for example of rape in dark alleys just to prove my point but I suppose you really wanted to prove your point, which didn't need any proving. Maybe you have missed some rape cases that happened when some girl was passing alone in the jungle or the wheat paddy fields. Maybe for you, only the rapes in Nepal matters, but you have to also think about rape that happens in the US or in developed countries. After all a rape is a rape, whether raping a girl wearing sari, frock, maxi, gown, mini skirt or bikini.
The suggestion about revealing clothes is just one example of how one could be cautious. I could also say, be cautious about talking to or trusting strangers, but then again you could accuse me of being taliban not allowing girls to talk to guys simply because that's the kind of stance you like to take.
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Posted on 01-30-13 7:48
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I lose, you win if you want to see it as win/lose. I didn't search for these news desperately in the internet. All of these are from kantipur, and many were printed in the FRONT page. I don't want to do research in rape cases. My only point is let's not blame women for rapes, and that seem to be your point too. I absolutely agree with that; may be I failed to see if you had written that before.
The suggestion about revealing clothes is just one example of how one could be cautious. I could also say, be cautious about talking to or trusting strangers, but then again you could accuse me of being taliban not allowing girls to talk to guys simply because that's the kind of stance you like to take.
- You are smart and you have more advice and you can give more advice. There is no harm on giving advice. But as you said I have prejudiced views, I would only like to say, 'don't limit your advice to only women, give some advice to men too'. I apologize to you for exaggeration by bringing taliban. No, I don't want to make that kind of stance.
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Posted on 01-31-13 9:06
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After everything is said that done you say " I apologize to you for exaggeration by bringing taliban. No, I don't want to make that kind of stance."
That is the mostly the whole reason for the discussion because you insinuated that my suggestion was like taliban. And now you apologize for that? Thanks for wasting my and everyone's time because you exaggerated your statement to make your point. Now you're coming down to ground level.
As you've said and as I've said it's not about winning but I will let you have the last word on this. Ciao!
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