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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-16-07 1:17
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Hillary's turn to announce next? Source: - http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/01/16/obama_to_enter_2008_white_house_race/ Democrat Obama enters 2008 White House race By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent | January 16, 2007 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois jumped into the 2008 White House race on Tuesday, promising to bring Americans together and "change our politics" with a campaign that could make him the first black president in U.S. history. Obama, a freshman senator and rising party star, formed a committee to begin raising money and hiring staff to campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination to succeed Republican President George W. Bush. He plans a formal campaign announcement in his hometown of Chicago on February 10. "Our leaders in Washington seem incapable of working together in a practical, common sense way. Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions," Obama said in a video message announcing his bid. "We have to change our politics, and come together around our common interests and concerns as Americans," he said.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 01-16-07 2:56
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Man he should wait. dun think the society is ready for a Black Pres yet. He would make an excellent running mate for Hillary. Just hope that if he does run and lose......he he there is no need for another Jesse Jackson or another SHARP AL. he he
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Tisa
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Posted on 01-16-07 3:16
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Hillary as a president and Obama as VP would be fresh start for curently messy USA ( As far as foreign policy goes). Have you heard a joke in democratic circle? "Don't tell momma, I am for Obama." Ha ha.
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-16-07 3:24
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Bathroom Coffee - How's it going? One quick comment : I personally think Barack Obama is no Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackcon. One measure of that : his victory in the 2004 elections: Republicans were running over each other to vote for this guy.True, America is not Illinois, but I think it would be a mistake to minimize his chances because of his race. His race might actually be an advantage - especially in blue states. Even in the red states, at least some of them, seeing how close Harold Ford Jr came to winning the election in TN last November, I'd say they might be a bit more accepting of a black leader now than they ever have been. Also, he really needs to hold onto the blue states and pick up places like Ohio, FL and perhaps CO,NV, NM. It might be tough but not impossible. But a word of caution: there is still 22 months left - and even a week is a long time in politics. Remember, it took 5 minutes for the Dean campaign to implode Just another thought.
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timetraveller
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Posted on 01-16-07 3:50
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If I were American, I'd vote for Barrack Obama any day!
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Posted on 01-16-07 5:19
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I like this guy but I still think it is too early for him.. he didn't sound very confident during the interview soon after Bush's recent announcement. I liked his speech during the convnention but none after that.. I think there are other Dem candidates who are far more expereinced than him .... It will be fun to see who announces next.. :-)) Go Hill Go...
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 01-16-07 5:44
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Of course OSAMA is running from any potential caputure by American forces.
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Jonny
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Posted on 01-16-07 7:05
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Too bad that Mark Warner (former Governer of VA) is not running for President. He could have been a strong candidate.
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ashu
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Posted on 01-16-07 8:10
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y money is on Obama too. If there's something about Obama that makes you (well, me anyway!) feel that this person is going to be a statesman. If he wins in 2008, great! If not, then, he'll still be young to run in 2012 or 2016. This is his momemt, and I am glad that he has seized this. Meantime, I recommend his book "The Audacity of Hope" to you all. oohi ashu *************** From historian Niall Ferguson: 1958 and today's GOP Voters booted Republicans from Congress during Eisenhower's second term. Could we see a repeat this year? An extract: "What's more, as happened in 1958, the combination of foreign policy setbacks and economic disappointments could set the stage not merely for Democratic gains at the midterms but for a Democratic victory in the presidential election two years down the line. Intriguingly, there is already a John F. Kennedy figure on the scene who, he recently admitted, has "thought about the possibility" of a bid for the White House. Youthful, charismatic and the personification of the American dream, Barack Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, has been this autumn's media sensation, his face on every talk show, his name in every column, his book rivaling Woodward's in the charts. You think the U.S. is not ready for a black president? Well, back in 1958 you'd probably have said the same about an Irish Catholic." - http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ferguson30oct30,1,2434224.column?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 01-16-07 8:17
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देशको चिन्ता गर्न छोडेर्, बिदेश को ? बुझी नसक्नु छ, साझा का विद्वान महाशयहरु को ।
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ashu
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Posted on 01-16-07 8:34
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Some more chintan-manan on bideshi politicians in today's 24/7 internet-driven global village world! ********* This is what a former colleague of Obama -- at the U Chicago Law School (where Obama taught for sometime) had to say about him: An extract: "He was, and is, widely admired by students and faculty alike -- and entirely across political divisions. How well I remember past elections in which faculty members, who disagreed on a great deal, agreed that Obama would be a magnificent addition to the United States Congress. I think their agreement resulted from Obama's character (he's a genuinely wonderful guy), his evident ability and sheer excellence (for example, he's a terrific teacher, and we tried to convince him to join the faculty full-time on several occasions), and his independence and unpredictability (he toes no party line; he knows how markets work, and how government can make things worse). -http://uchicagolaw.typepad.com/faculty/2006/10/barack_obama.html
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Posted on 01-16-07 9:16
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Ashu ji, good to see you around....is it not a ringt moment for a Sjha veteran like Ashu to present an objective analysis of current politcal scenario in Nepal?- no pun intended! Neutral ----------------------------------
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Posted on 01-16-07 11:45
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I agree that Obama's speeches are great. I, as all were, tremendously enthusiastic about the Junior Senator from IL when I heard him first at the DNC Convention. He seemed bright, brilliant and the one to unite a divided country. He talked a lot about hope and his book has received good reviews. Mind you, I have not read it. However, since his entrace to the Senate, he was seemingly quiet under a Republican leadership of a 'do nothing rubber-stamp' congress. He talked a lot but has always echoed the talking points of his colleagues at the democratic side. For example, Senators Reed and Levin introduced a legislation of a orderly phased redoployment of US forces from Iraq in 4-6 months and it talked about a political solution not a military solution to the abyss in Iraq. They were criiticized heavily and were labeled 'cut and runners'. Obama was quiet. It was one sane Republican Hagel who stood up at the Senate floor and denounced the attack. It seems rather absurd that the attacks of such nature on a non-binding resolution which needed bi-partisam support from both sides of the aisle would need a republican senator to defend it and denounce such attacks. Where was Barrack then? And now all of a sudden we see him coming to every talk shows and commentaries in news media blabbering as if it was his idea of what he now calls 'political acoomodation' of US forces. I think it would be a mistake to vote for Obama just because of some of his speech and catchy slogans. He needs to prove what he is capable of. There has been enough 'political slogans' and phrases. Remember the young governer from Texas? Nothing to show for in his Governership yet he had pitchy speeches and promises that are yet to be kept.
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-17-07 7:35
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For those who missed it, this is Barak Obama delivering the keynote speech at the Democratic national convention in Boston in 2004:
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Hi_nanu
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Posted on 01-17-07 8:47
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Thanks captain for Obama's Speech...It was one of the best speech I have ever listened..He has a great potential to attract people...
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ashu
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Posted on 01-17-07 9:38
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Neutral wrote: "Ashu ji, good to see you around....is it not a ringt moment for a Sjha veteran like Ashu to present an objective analysis of current politcal scenario in Nepal?" ****** Neutral-ji, I would be the first one to tell you that my so-called "veteran" status on Sajha gives me SOME experience in handling debates and discussions, and in occasionally nudging and shaping the flows and the content of some of the conversations. But beyond that, I would NOT extend the scope of my so-called "veteran" status. The beauty of Sajha is that most of the time, after you shrug off the fluff, it's the quality of your ideas that matter, NOT your "veteran" status. And most people recognize that -- one way or the other. As for political comments, there are two ways to look at them: 1) Playing to the gallery, saying the popular things, and getting wah-wahs and thinking that you are a cool/clever guy, or 2) Quietly, persistently and honestly, if laboriously, influencing thinking at the highest levels by creating allies, winning over skeptics and pushing for a larger positive agenda that you think benefits most people. Either one is fine. But for now, let's just say that I personally find the sheer difficulty (i.e. time, efforts and patience required) of the second process very, very attractive .. . to invest my time in. Other than that, Sajha, like those utterly dark chocolates that my wife catches me snacking on from time to time, remains a thoroughly guilty pleasure. Back to Obama, please. oohi ashu
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Posted on 01-17-07 9:53
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How favorable is his Middle name 'Hussein' for 2008 presidential election? Barack Hussein Obama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
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Riten
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:17
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Having Hussein as middle name of a US president would probably work as a shoothing balm over this festering wound of the world we call Middle-east. That is if the ignorants of America get over it.
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Posted on 01-18-07 10:44
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Posted on 01-18-07 11:43
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The next election in the USA is quite a GREAT EXPECTATION for me. Is it this soon that people of USA will vote for Black (minority) or Woman as a president to rule their nation????? I doubt it....
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 01-18-07 12:30
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It is indeed very interesting how his middle name is going to play out. As he likes to say he was a "skinny kid with a funny name." He also mentioned that his parent could have chosen to name him something else but believed in the "tolerant and accepting nature" of American society when they chose to name him Barack Obama. He needs to get this message out in force - clearly he needs to shape his campaign to appeal to the better nature of Americans - and not to their fears. He did a good job with this in the Illinois senate race and I hope he can do so again in the national race. But all is fair in love,war and politics. I am sure his opponents will use the Hussein card - it could work but it could backfire too. Obama's candidacy is an opportunity for whites in America to forever lay to rest the notion that elements of racism still linger in this society. I personally feel his stand on the issues, rather than his race, is what will make or break him. Those people who wont vote for him because of his race would prolly not vote for God if God were black and ran for President so I don't think Obama needs to be too worried about them. The key is the middle - those independents and moderate Republicans who voted for him the last time around - and there I think he has a fighting chance. This podcast from On Point on WBUR Boston and NPR discusses his candidacy.The program is 45 minutes long. Source: - http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2007/01/20070117_a_main.asp Program excerpt: Obama: Presidential Contender And then there was word of an Illinois legislator and Congressional neophyte, just two years in Washington, who turned his attention to the presidency in a time of national crisis. His name was Abraham Lincoln. Expect to hear a lot about Mr. Lincoln as neophyte Illinois senator Barack Obama makes his newly-minted run for the White House. Yesterday came the first formal signal that Obama -- African-American, with a story all his own -- is going for it. Next month, in Springfield, Illinois, where Honest Abe made his "house divided" speech, Obama will make it official. This hour On Point: from the Land of Lincoln, Barack Obama sets his sites on the White House. poweredby ODEO may take a few minutes to buffer
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