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Gautam B.
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Posted on 08-10-06 9:23
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Enjoyed this article by Prof. Abhi Subedi. http://www.kantipuronline.com/columns.php?nid=82347
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karmarana
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Posted on 08-19-06 4:41
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ss74k, are you nuts or what? How on earth you found that sentence Correct? Read carefully, They know mistakes can occasionally happen. So this is normal situation. And then, read the next sentence but it was ended with the comma perhaps by the editor This appears to have been the case in the application by Professor Subedi, So these two sentences tie with each other. Then what? , long a cultural contact of our American Center, and we regret it. This sentence is INCOMPLETE. So we can deduce much for this fragmented sentence. NOW read the title of Moriarty's article - U.S. VISA SERVICES: ANYTHING BUT “INDIFFERENT†What USA is saying... ANYTHING but Indifferent, totally disagreeing with crazy Abhi. And to prove his point, Moriarty gave a great details of what goes on with Visa Processing in Nepal at US Embassy. Look, I am not a fan of USA. I don;t even care if USA goes downhill or uphill. What I am drawing attention of you guys is towards the culprit intellectuals of Nepal who are partly responsible for our country's failure.
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karmarana
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Posted on 08-19-06 4:43
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So we can deduce much for this fragmented sentence = So we cannot deduce much from this fragmented sentence.
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ss74k
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Posted on 08-19-06 4:49
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karmarana you must be nuts not me...if you have guts then write a letter to the embassy saying why there is error..i am sure morarity must have read kantipur and that same article is in embassy...if you are guru of english then teach morarity...the way you are looking is you are crazy..you think yourself perfect... "This appears to have been the case in the application by Professor Subedi, long a cultural contact of our American Center, and we regret it. " i don't see any wrong with this sentences. I asked some of my american freinds to read the sentence also and they said there is notihng wrong...may be you must be nuts..
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ss74k
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Posted on 08-19-06 4:54
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you must have PHD in english..because you are the only person to understand that sentence in different way haina...
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sidster
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Posted on 08-19-06 5:01
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ho ho ..US embassay testai cha....hamra pade lekhya ba lai pani khaire mora le dui dui choti visa nadiyera balla talla tesro pali ma chain diyecha.......buda ko 50000 - 60000 hajar rupiya ta visa aplication ma nai sakecha. Hamra baa lai ris uthera tesko desh jandai janna bhanera basi rako thiye tara pachi pheri maile kar garare aaipuge.....buda le bhanthio US Embassay le Tehi nepali ko visa application paisa uthauncha ra tehi nepal lai US grant bhanera ai ali paisa dincha re...he he ... Rumor is that US embassay collects about $120,000 PER DAY from Nepalis. About 400 ppl per day apply for US visa. Those 400 include the 2nd and 3rd time applicants. So as a business view point it makes sense not issuing the visa on the first attempt.
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karmarana
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Posted on 08-19-06 5:03
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I bet your native english speaking friends should not necessarily be perfect in grammar. OK, forget all this grammar, syntax... here is a point to ponder. If, on that day, Mr. Abhi had gotten the visa, do you think after reaching home he would have written the article bashing USA using the terms like indifference, hegemony, church-priest, and so on? Here is another point to ponder: Instead of USA, that day, he went to apply for Bangladesh's visa or Japan's visa, and got rejected, i wonder what kind of article would he have written against that country.
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karmarana
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Posted on 08-19-06 5:17
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Sidster, I agree with your ba. But your numbers are funny.. ha ha... 400 applicants/day do not pay $120,000/day to the US Embassy. But with that 400 people, at least the money nepalese paying to US Embassy is in the range of $40,000 - $60,000 per day. That's a lot of money. It's playing lottery though. The applicant at least think so. If USA makes money it;s only because of us nepalese poeple. what else can we do? Unfortunately, Nepal cannot deny the visa to foreigners... that;s why Nepal even issue visa at the airport to these foreigner... we are poor, we need $$.
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karmarana
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Posted on 08-19-06 5:31
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Assuming there are 5 working days per week *52weeks = 260 working days for 400 nepalese to apply for US visa paying $100 appication fees, the total sum of money Nepal is paying to USA is more than $10,400,000 per year. If USA pays $100,000 a year to one american working at the Kathamndu Embassy, then they can have 104 americans working at the embassy. Of course there are fewer than 104 americans working at Kathmandu US Embassy.
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SunnyDev
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Posted on 08-19-06 5:33
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Lots of what ifs... Don't make it too complicated. Moriarty said " anything but..." That "anything" gave a perception of indifference to Abhi. What Abhi says is " US has luxury to show indifference..." bangladesh doesn't have that kind of luxury upto this date. Sidster even showed the economical aspect of this indifference. Abhi is a writer. His job is to write. He wrote what he felt and what he thought after his visa was denied. Moriarty responded. For this simple mind, Moriarty said " Sorry. To err is a human. Please don't take this mistake as intentional indifference. We really do care." Now you think Moriarty's response was doctored. You want to prove that Moriarty slapped Abhi for groaning You thought, Abhi whined for losing a free trip. A question for you. Was that really a free trip? Is it a lotttery? Where can I get such a free trip? I thought Abhi works a little harder than me and that's why he gets response even from Ambassador, just not a free trip if that what it is. Disclaimer: there are lots of syntactical and grammatical error on this text however this is not a doctored text.
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Posted on 08-19-06 6:10
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US embassy also collects $200 per student visa. Out of all applicants, I would say 90% are student. US embassy collects a large sum each day much more than what this crazy and senseless Karma did in his calculation. Karma sounds as an English teacher. You poor guy, I am proud of you. You're English is far better than the native American's itself. AmriT
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ss74k
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Posted on 08-19-06 6:29
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yes exilir..this karmarana seems to have PHD in english..first he pointed about incomplete sentence and second grammer...that is alright ,he bet native american may not be perfect in grammer or so called english......from karmarana point of view morarity is also bad in english.if he wrote incomplete sentence from your point of view why didn't he proof read and why didn't he made correction even in his own site.....he must have read kantipur and he must have read the articles in his own site....karmarana i would like you to teach how to write english to morarity???
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Amanisha
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Posted on 08-19-06 6:42
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Gosh..Isnt it over yet? This thread kinda represent MAHABHARAT....I cant see the ending coming on soon. Well whats the prob.. As Mr. Subedi is the writer..he wrote the article based upon his experience even though I dun think he had expected to get the response from Mr.Moriarty. Isnt that itself an answer? heheh..I think Karmarana has a big mouth..or its hard for him to lose...Coz its human nature. Sometimes its good to let the ego go...... Aneesha
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Gautam B.
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Posted on 08-19-06 8:45
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This karmarana knows he has already lost but doesn't want to accept. That's why wants to be at the bottom of the thread. It means 'winning' for him. We can only have pity on him!
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sidster
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Posted on 08-19-06 8:50
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I dont know where these ppl are getting their visa from but when i got my f1 visa renewed in 2004 hey charged me 200.00 for visa and 100.00 for sevis fee. So its 300.00 per person. My math should be correct karma rana. After all i scored 98 in comp math in slc kya. he he
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karmarana
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Posted on 08-19-06 10:11
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So which one worth more? Your $300 or the opportunity you got with the Visa?
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sidster
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Posted on 08-19-06 11:08
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Forget about whats worth more. My issue with u is u said my math was wrong. 400 applicant * 300.00per aplicant equals 120,000.
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karmarana
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Posted on 08-20-06 7:49
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So, is it because Abhi lost his aplication fees in US$, and that's why he got mad and wrote the article with an anger lashing out at USA, it's hegemony, indifference? Is he that cheap? This is the subject I am trying to get across for discussion. Otherwise his article makes no sense !!! Afterall, it just seems that he tried to recover the visa fees he lost by publishing the article in Kantipur!!!! he he.
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Posted on 08-20-06 8:37
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Look dude ....Avi thought he was a good candidate to qualify for the Visa but he didnt get it. My dad though he qualified good as well, so when he was denied twice he walked around and told all of his neighbours, friends, and co workers about the TRUTH. The TRUTH of US not issueing the Visa the first time cos we are from the third world and US doesnt give a rats ass about third world citizen not getting visa to its country. My dad was upset so he told his friends about his experience. If he was as well know as Avi, and had access to media as Avi had, im sure he would have done the same. Its a human nature. He had a valid reason to be upset. I am sure that the visa decline rate of US embassy in the western countries is nothing compared to the third world. It is US choice who they want to visa or not and it was also Avi's choice to go to the media to express his opinion. In this case it was true and honest opinion.
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Posted on 08-20-06 9:06
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karma, I know you hate Abhi and you are trying to find a valid and logical reason so that people would agree on you. Why don't you think a little hard and be sure, why you despised him so much so that you can write "SO THAT'S IT HUH?" again. If you didn't like the fact that he wrote an article for being denied VISA. That's Okay. YOU DON"T HAVE TO HAVE THE WHOLE WORLD COMPLY WITH YOU. People have choices AND A BIG HEAD TO MAKE ONE.
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Posted on 08-20-06 9:11
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Sorry, I misquote you. Your words were. "That ends the thread !! " not "SO THAT'S IT HUH?"
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