Hello yo all,

If you are against Royal move, then please suggest the alternative. It is easy to bash king. Everybody seen the failed democracy. Just do not bash the royal move. SUggest alternatives to get out of sh*t hole that we are in because of these poltical leaders.

Nepe, Houston, Hulaki yo all views will be highly appreciated.

For me I just want peace and stability in Nepal.

HF for peace in Nepal

Putting aside our differences, it's high time to support the King. As far as I see, King G has a lot to loose not like political leaders. He only has two choices either work for the good of the people and country or lose his kingdom. I think King G, if he wants to lead the country and stay if power, can enpower himself by enpowering people and developing the country . We need a strong and smart leader who can fight for Nepal and Nepali people.
For 16 years these political leaders degraded the country by abusing power and corrupting the whole system. All the political leaders got so rich in these 16 years by snatching Goverments revenue and Foreign Aid. We have to confiscate the money they earned by wrong deeds. We need strict law and order in Nepal. I belive only King G can do that. I hope and pray to god he succeeds in resovling the moist proble as soon as possible.

no power could defy the power of the ppl
>> the king just did, didn't he? one can't even speak against him in private conversations? isn't that defying the power of the ppl?

so are you trying to imply that the country should've been left in the hands of the politicians and have waited for the democracy to work?
>> if there were dissatisfactions with the politicians, get rid of them. no point waiting. just waiting does not do anything. but now, under the current system, no one can do anything but wait.

the thing is noone has the strong logical answer to what should be done right now
>> i repeat once again. we should have a constituent assembly, and the king should step down/be removed if that is what the people want.

had there been one we would have implemented it......wouldn't you?
>> there always was this option. the durbaar did not let this happen because it wanted to consolidate power. yes, i would have.


I think King G, if he wants to lead the country and stay if power, can enpower himself by enpowering people and developing the country .
>> if wel empower people, nepal will develop. it will take time, it won't happen overnight. but how and why will the king empower the people?

Junkie bro:

Do you think we have a civil war in Nepal or not?

Just want to see what your opinion on the current situation is.

Tired dude
I think you are getting this totally wrong. First of all as you were talking about defying the power of the people, that is not really defying the power because more people are supporting the king rite now and you can even see that by refering the poll in our own Sajha.com homepage.

What you need to understand is that the majors that king had taken was to restore the peace and to save the country from burying into quicksand. Everyday as we used to wake up, all we would hear is this many people got killed here and that many people got killed there. Even in the international standard our country has fallen waydown than what it used to be. Looking at rising per capita income doesn't mean the country is rising. Just refer to stat of the other country, the way their is rising.

I have been noticing that you been say this over and over again: if there were dissatisfactions with the politicians, get rid of them. no point waiting. just waiting does not do anything. but now, under the current system, no one can do anything but wait.

How can you say that?? Instead of waiting why not give the chance to the King. All he is asking is give him 3 years time to make everythin work systematically in the country again. Do you want to live in fear all the time?? As you can talk to the people back home, how secure they feel now as compared to wht it used to be before!!

At the end all I'm asking is what would you think would have been the rite solution to the present crisis?? What would you have done is you were in King G's place??

Tired
i repeat once again. we should have a constituent assembly, and the king should step down/be removed if that is what the people want.

Do you think this would solve the problem?? Lagam lagaune manche huda ta janta lagam lagdainan, kohi pani nabhaya desh kati chada hune hola!!

janatalaai janataale bahek kunai ek byakti wa sansthale lagaam lagaaune adhikaar chhaina.

janataale jantaalaai suhaaudo niyam kanoon banaaune chhan.

janataalaai chaadaa bhanna paidainaa. jasle dukha paayo, tyahi chhaadaa? wah!


jai nepali janataa. jai nepal.

if wel empower people, nepal will develop. it will take time, it won't happen overnight. but how and why will the king empower the people?

The king will empower people and that day is not far!! But if he empowers now, who would you vote for?? who would you trust that would lead our country and us infront of rest of the world?? and voting is far away, I'd be surprised even if election could be conducted in this sitation that the country is going through.

jai nepal dude:

i was talking in the phone to a friend the other day he said:

"well, it is all nice and well in kathmandu. everything is normal. the government offices are working very fast. so it is good for people here.
i heard that 20 buses were burnt outside the valley yesterday though. there is no way to know if that is true or not. my home (his home is in the east), there are maoists everywhere, i don't think their activities have receded. i highly doubt it. there is no way of knowing though, i don't want to go home now. it's just too risky."

-- if you say that is peace, you are just being very selfish man. peace in kathmandu is not peace in nepal. kathmandu is not nepal.

First of all as you were talking about defying the power of the people, that is not really defying the power because more people are supporting the king rite now and you can even see that by refering the poll in our own Sajha.com homepage.

>>> once again, if the king is popular enough (just 50.0001% of the votes will do), let's see. what does sajha poll tell us: nothing. let's have a constituent assembly and let's see if the nepali people want him. if the king is sure he is like by enough people, why did he keep blocking constituent assembly?

Tired
that was not what I meant. I was just talkin at the context how political parties were gambling and fighting with one another by sending their people in the street so that they can get the power and so that they can suck on our sweat and blood!! Do you think they wanted to get in the power to develop the country and make our living standard higher? Janta le hijo dhari dukkha paiyo khi aja, timi affai bhana sathi?? Atleast King said he will try to abolish all this BS going on in the country.

there is that age old question: "if a tree fell in the woods and you didn't hear it, did it actually fall?"

"if the maoists killed man somewhere in nepal (outside kathmandu) and you didn't hear about it, did the man not die?"

haina saathi, ma maanchhu king said that. but let's not forget, the netaas said that too! didn't they? what makes the king different? king pani uhi dyangko mula ho. khali pharak yatti chha ki, u sanga army chha, jasko shaktile usle daman garna sakchha.

netaa haru chor hun. tyo ta ma pani mandachhu. tara chorlaai chhadera daakaalaai angalnuta bhayena ni.

Tired
you said that right, Nepal is not Kathmandu.Like you said, everything can't be done overnight so yeah it would take a little time before making everything fall in the system. I am sorry to hear that maoist activites is still going on around your home area and I certainly do feel ya!!

So do you really think constituent assembly would restore peace in the country?? Do you think Maoist would end this bloody battle rite after it happens?? Do you really think thats the only solution??

Tired:
You can't really put King and Netas in the same catogory. King has love for his country, if not for himself atleast for his ansestors!! you talk about netas, they don't even have respect for others, how would they have any love for the nation!!

King has the army in his hand, but where did you really see DAMAN is happenning?? just cause he shut down phone and press for few days?? dude what you need to understand in Nepal halla nai hall kho desh ho. If he hadn't done that, there would have been 100s of people already been killed in the street by now!!this about it that way...nepali shojo janta lai drive garna sajilo cha ra think how all those netas would have driven all out brodas and sistas to come out in the street for riot!!

that is the only solution where everybody can meet.

and no solution at such a critical juncture is a static solution. it has to be a dynamic, interactive solution process. there will have to be a lot of checks and balances. but that is the only hope i see. of course, even with that we, the people, have to remain vigilant and careful so that no one takes advantage of us again.

ani saathi, it seems like the king will have a hard time defeating the maoists (if he can do that). there are reports everywhere that the maoist blockade is crippling the country (refer to paramendra's thread).

so, you tell me, man. do you think there is another solution that will lead us to peace with less bloodshed?

JayNepal dude, you are assumming the King loves the people, the country man. Well, he may love the country, as a man would love his piece of land. BUT Nepal is not his personal property.

Dude, no one can speak. All phone calls are susceptible to be monitored. All emails are susceptible to be monitored. No protests - they arrested human rights activists. Dude, isn't that DAMAN?

well actually, i think i will have to take that back.

the maoists say their demands of a constituent assembly is being "refocused" whatever that means.


OH, GOD SAVE NEPAL!

tired dude
Lets say we go for constituent assembly:

1)King wins: The situation will be worsen than the present one as then he would have everything by himself and no one can question his absolute authority!!

2) Maoist wins: you think they will do anything good for the country and for you and me?? Thats a big BS, the reason why they went inside the woods was because they could not win by participating in the parlamantery elections. Had they not tried that??

3) Multy party sysem wins: It will be the same old bullshit of corruption and strugle of power thats been going on for years now. instead of thinking botu constructing the country, they will always be fighting on who will be in the office. Atleast we have someone who has been trying to run everything smooth now whether you say with his power or of his cunningness!!

So lets give him some time and see what he has exactly in his mind. He is not just playing a dirty game and he has all kind of people around him to help him make the right decision. I don't support him as a person but yeah as per present context, I support him as a king!!

but like you said my friend: OH GOD SAVE NEPAL

ok man. i agree with you. god save Nepal.

just one point though, if we went to constituent assembly, at least people like me will not be complaining like this, right? i will have to accept whatever the nepali people choose.

you seem to have quite a bit of faith on the king, and the people around him. well, you are justified in that. it is similar to my faith in the people. but anyway, i hope your faith is not misplaced. i still don't see him empowering people, but i guess we will have wait to talk about that.

2 weeks have gone.

teso bhaye mero dola kha hai