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BostonKtm
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Posted on 12-22-08 12:45
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Nepalmountainnews Report | 22 Dec 2008
Unofficial reports have it that Nepali Congress President Girija
Prasad Koirala’s repeated plea to meet ousted King Gyanendra Shah has
been rejected.
According to Shekhar Koirala- youth leader of the
Nepali Congress, senior Koirala’s perennial petition to meet ex-King
Gyanendra was rejected by Gyanendra himself.
Similarly, Chief of
the Army Staff Mr. Rookmangad Katawal’s pleas to meet the ex-queen
mother Ratna too have been rejected reports vernacular weekly Sanghu.
The Nepal Army chief is talked to be the adopted son of Queen Ratna.
King
Gyanendra of late has been meeting political leaders of various shades
and inquiring about the political situation in the country.
Rakesh
Sood- Indian ambassador to Nepal, Kamal Thapa-RPP-Nepal President,
Pashupati Sumsher Rana- RPP President and Surya Bahadur Thapa- RJP
(Rastriya Janshakti Party) President have already called on ex-monarch
in the recent days.
Mr. S.B. Thapa immediately after meeting
King Gyanendra appears to have left for New Delhi- the Mecca of Nepali
politics or else he should have been in the news.
However,
Koirala’s repeated request to see the king in person and the straight
denial from the former monarch, say analysts, was obvious.
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Posted on 12-25-08 11:58
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Once Montesque who was the wall of inspiration of the french people during french revolution wrote "king and the people are the parties to deal with, if the king doesnot rule the people according to the general will, he looses his loyalty" . Pire let me introduced French King louis 16 to you if you are ignorant about him . There was no awful difference between him and HM Ganendra but the main difference was louis 16 thought only of himself when people went to the palace and asked for bread he turned to his queen who said so why don't you have a cake? Its a common analogy how can the people have a cake if they even don't have a bread.
HM Ganendra of course dissolved the house and took control of house but in a timebeing did one stupid thing he wasted his time appointing Girija P koirala, Sher Bhadur Deuba, Surya Bhadur Thapa, Lokendra Bhadur chand, again Suryabhadur Thapa and Tulsi Giri ....as a prime minister hoping that they would definitely bring stability in the country and he even didn't realised that these thugs just wanted the chair nothing more. As far as i am concerned since i was in Nepal King Ganendra was still in power believe me there was no killing no fighting in the name of race and no misery was there. And even HM ganendra took the power in his hand not for him but for we Nepali he knew that his beloved country was going down day by day so a strict option was left in his hand a wrong move at the wrong time......i truly miss my motherland and i know it will never be the same that i left three years ago.........
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pire
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Posted on 12-25-08 2:33
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"Pire let me introduced French King louis 16 to you if you are ignorant about him ..."
Raju, only stupid and arrogant people write statement like yours. Why in the freaking world you think you know about Louis 16 and I am ignorant about him.. Why just don't write the incidence, and let me decide my familiarity with the king. Have respect for the person you talk, or you don't have to talk to him at all.
Btw, tell me what else Gyanendra could have done? Suppose you were at his shoes, what else he could have done? Appoint Nhuchchhe shamsher and Jagat Gauchan as prime ministers? Kill/incarcerate all opponents? Start a junglee raj?
Why don't you royalists don't understand that the time to get free birta from kings is over. May be your (fore)father got some land in KTM at their hand, may be you had hoped to get some lucrative position in KTM by getting a hukum pramangi, but those days are over. Now, once the Maoists mess is gone, we will hopefully have a relatively equitable system where everyone has to fight for their position in the society...
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raju161
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Posted on 12-25-08 2:55
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n this is the equitable system right ...what a equality is there now in nepal? i am just flat u here still trying to be ignorant why do u mimic my sentence in your text just stop it give me a true reasoning that has a valid arguement ....or r u a anarchist if so get the fu out of this text coz we are trying to find someone with true reasoning to solve the problems in our country ...
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pire
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Posted on 12-25-08 3:32
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"we are trying to find someone with true reasoning to solve the problems in our country ..." Yea. You crack me up.. you can't write a sentence correctly, and you are talking about solving the problems in a country. What a megalomania you royalist chamchas have. Learn a good skill, get a good job and raise your children well. You really dont' have to contribute anything to solve the country's problems, because you only know how to screw the country.. You had your chances, and you blew it anyway.
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BihariBabu
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Posted on 12-25-08 3:43
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Pire seems to be in "crack". Maybe he is getting it for free from his God YCL brothers.
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raju161
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Posted on 12-26-08 9:27
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Alright this one is for PIRE well i was at work that i could not reply first of all Prithivi Narayan Shah had Five brothers one of them was Sur Prathap Shah. All of his brother were in the unification process and they were not hiding in india like Baburam and Prachande. Sur Pratap Shah was shot to his eye with an arrow while fighting. Kalu pandey who was a commoner and a brave warrior was killed at the battle of kirtipur. For kalu pandey being killed HM Prithivi Narayan Shah ordered to cut the nose and ears of all those kirtipuris from which around 10 dharnis of nose and ears were collected. lot's of our innocent Nepali brothers and sisters like kalu pandey were killed when they were fighting brainwashed war .......What did Prachande did for them? Yes he did encoraged more people to die for no reason and ofcouser was enjoing the luxury at indian hotels and restaurants.
Here you are talking like that of Gagena i am this i am that i got my rights i got this power bla bla bla ....first of all we cannot remove Mount Everest from the face of the earth and give it to india ......similarly we cannot tolerate Buddha being from India, most importantly i don't know about you and others but ....about me i cannot kick out my parents from my house ... ... I don't know that they might have don't bad things in the past ..they might have ......neglected cretain responsibility regarding me ...Most importantly i don't care at all ......though they might have been good or bad most importantly i Don't care any bad aspects about them Coz they have raised me feed me and cared about me...what ever i have is theirs and whatever their's is mine ......period .....
My country is my house and the person(king) who gave me food to eat, place to live and cloth to wear a better environment to grow up is like my parent ...i cannot fight for my rights coz everything i have is his and everything he has is mine...
"I WOULD LIKE TO BE RULED BY ONE LION THAN TO BE RULED BY THOUSAND MICE"
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pire
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Posted on 12-26-08 12:50
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Raju, You are such a stupid that you don't know you are a stupid. Look what you wrote earlier (in another thread where I challenged you) "his majesty prithivi narayan shah was there to unify the unruly kingdoms in fact lost his precious brothers .." You wrote he lost his brother. And now you come up with this in this thread: PN Shah's brother lost his eyes. Losing brother's eyes isn't quite same as losing brothers, moron. For a slave like you, king gave food, and land. I don't even want to argue with that statement. This is what we call chakari in our country, a big time chakari, and guess what, you are five years too late for this. King is gone, and so is monarchy. Mahendra's wife is crying in her palace at her old age, because monarchy wasn't strong enough to prevent her from seeing all these pains. Her husband sins are affecting everyone. (Btw, I am glad that she is alive to see all this. Mahendra is dead, but at least, she has seen all this, and hopefully will tell her husband how sinful he was and how people repaid his crime)
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Posted on 12-26-08 12:56
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Let's list down the sins commited by kings and those commited by people elected leaders like prachanda and then compare. I am sure, sins commited by people elected leaders will be far more than those by kings.
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pire
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Posted on 12-26-08 1:06
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That's a bull. All the kings did was came out of right vagina, became king and doled out rewards to their own kinds. Not a single king was good, after PN Shah. They were mad, they screwed around promiscuously, and the country was practically fu(ked up until 2046. The leaders may have been dick, but they could be removed, and that's what people want. Think about what a terrorist Paras was.. everybody was so afraid of this man, and he was jhandai made a king.
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Posted on 12-26-08 3:40
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so u want me to elect gagene chor as the king or prachande as the king ? i know panchayat was the important system in our country. stop day dreaming.....
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pire
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Posted on 12-26-08 3:50
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well, you stupid, king is gone. Gagan Thapa can't be elected as a king, nor do Prachanda. Just fu(king change your mode of thinking, there is no king, gyanendra is gone, and there will not be another king, that's what republic means. What a jerk. What was your father duing Panchayat? Some ass kisser of king who got a few free land in birta and provided your brother a job using hukum pramangi?
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Posted on 12-26-08 4:41
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One thing for sure, King did not give the last constitution, we were the one . If they really acted in favor of Democracy rather than themselves and their party, they would not have given any power to king. That is our fault.
We did it, I mean our leaders are doing it. Our party leader are as corrupted as king but it sounds much more than the king. Because our leaders from the people and should act in favor of Peoples.
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Posted on 12-27-08 1:24
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What is going on guys? I found it interesting debate!
'Pire' whoever is has a Nepali feelings and guts: to be ruled by self, that is where we are heading to, I would say. This maoist crap ain't gonna sustain for long.
Now, what are these two fellas "Syanjali and Raju' talking about? You folks have smaller head than did the Negro during cotton field era. Grow up folks. People in Nepal have better plans than u do. They want change. They wanna-ted give chances to some promising folks, like they did for X-King Gyanendra (let's show some respect), Pranchanda, and so on at different moments.
Who is gonna govern the Nepal? Depends on Nepalese folks, and also on how politicians play the game. I don't who is gonna come next but I can tell you for sure: every next government is gonna be better than previous.
Keep going guys. Positive debate is helpful to purify your slave-era head!!
Cheers!
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Posted on 12-27-08 8:54
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First of all Nepal is one of the poorest country in the world. I know there is no any means that we can rely on for its development but water resources. There was a nation wide survey within our country way long ago and no one figured out the essential ore or minerals or anything else ...Concerning water resources to built one hydro power project it costs around US $ 40 million. Now don't say one hydro power project can enlight whole nepal and don't say hey what about selling YARSAGUMBA hahah ....After reading your articles i saw that we are kinda better off wow what a feeling i got seeing them. What you think this is a joke India is far more developed then our country at least we can say we are nothing in comparison with them do you think they are stable? Do you think that their Rupublic governance has fed all their citizens? Can you imagine how many people die from hunger and starvation every year in India? Can you tell how many kinds of terrorist are their in India? No you all are stupid and lack the vision of farsightedness. Well India might develop one day coz it has got all the infrastructures of development. But not we guys please stop day dreaming i see lot of dreams here Laxmi Prasad Devkota once told "Is Nepal really Small?"....i ask the same thing "Is nepal really that unique" that we can depend on these thugs who can take it to the plight of development hahahh what a stupid noway.
another Example it would be my foolishness to compare Nepal with India .
Nepal which stands in 93rd position in comparison of area stands at 142 in HDI so you can take it to the peak of developed list with your so called republic goverment handeled by bunch of thugs who were cowbows in the past and now hold 5 stored house in ktm and around 50 bighas or more land in different parts of country what a fagots and brainwashed sense i see developing here. Just tell me which of these netas of today that turned Nepal in to federal Democratic republic of Nepal is truely concerned with the issues of Nepal. Why are their fagots like YCL in the street? why are guys who are going to schools carrying guns and killing their friends in Jungle? Why people are attracking the journalists? why people are having 16 hour of electricity cut off? Why people in the far west are still dying of hunger and food shortage and why people in the central are dying by accidents of bus falling in Trishuli ? Why the petroleun that couple of month ago sold in $100 a barrel is now sold in $ 36.67 in US and far there in nepal same price is sticking within the ass of Nepalese? Why their are groups like limbuwan, khumbuwan, chure bhawar, madhese, tharu, dhimal, janajati blabla who were once known as Nepalese are now seeking their kingdom and their identity? Its been more then hundred days why there is not even the word of KHA is written in the name of constitution drafting? We its useless now to say i studied science and hoped to get engineering degree from nepal finally fled and i am at united states now- why do i feel i made a right move at the right time? why i am feeling so disappointment with the day to day happenings in our country?
the only reason is Federal Republic of Nepal its useless to say democratic coz the word has lost its meaning ....now in Nepal....I wish King will be back and take control of falling situation in our country.
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Posted on 12-27-08 9:08
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and this is for gogurkha hey not only pire we all have a nepali feeling and gut and we all want to see Nepal reaching that height where laxmi prasad devkota once said Nepal being unity in diversity is small but though it is small it is unique, it is big and it is rich in itself. I believe only the Person like King Ganendra who stepped down giving up Luxurious palace to the hands of pathetic thugs only can make my dream come true. talking about Paras let me tell you he lacks the quality of being a true Nepali and his fate will rely entirely on the hands of Nepalese and king when he will come back to power......if King ganendra can step down for the betterment and well being of nepal he obviously will come back to heal the worsening wound of Nepalese...
Jai Nepal
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Posted on 12-27-08 3:49
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point to be noted.. well, i don't think that maoist have done anythings apartfrom taking nepal backwards..they only thing which they did was took the crown from King that's it.. our country is dark age.. from this monday its 12 hrs loadshading and after 1 month its going to be 16 hrs.. they were the one who attacked all the hydro eletricity projects... they were to blame for this unlimited loadshading.. .. well, let keep in praying for Nepal.. God Bless Nepal.... but atleast we nepali here in US be unit and help for each other....who knows tomorrow anyone from US may get chance to lead nepal..
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Posted on 02-18-09 2:01
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I don't believe you guys are serious with those questions! I don't see anything to do with Maoists or raja or girira for the bus falling in Trisuli. The only reason is poverty and you cannot blame it to any particular party or group. All the political parties and king has contributions, little or more!! ______________________________________________________________________________ I don't have any problem for you supporting King; everybody got freedom and choices to make. We don't need no White Elephant, it is gone and is past already. We only need a strong government that sees the people from Nepalese eyes not Indian's. Not sure (yet) about Maoists but, UML and Congress are for the sure the two expanded the Indian feeling in Nepal. All the corrupted bastards have to be into the Khor, no matter the scale of crime. I don't see nobody strong enough to carry out that. Am just waiting for the right Junge to take actions! *I don't believe on communism neither. I just cannot trust anybody; all have done enough damage to be qualified to get hanged.
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Posted on 02-18-09 2:45
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We don't deserve to be ruled by anybody. All I want to see is all Nepalese treated equal. If I or anybody, as a regular Nepali go to jail for life for certain crime, I want to see king, prachanda, baburam, girija etc. go to jail for life too for the same crime. All we need is some brave hearts to make this happen. Lets send them to jail or nail or hell whatever they deserve. Fk them all!
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Posted on 02-18-09 10:57
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Its true that we dont deserve to be ruled by anybody but we need some one who can lead our country to an ideal nation and that is only the king. Neither of these political parties are dedicated for the nations and the citizens. What they fight is for power. But whoever rules should be under the constitution.
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Posted on 02-18-09 12:20
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Guys u r digressing.. Why do u think Girija tried to meet the ex-King? I think it was just a ploy of Girija to create suspicion in the minds of Maoists (as if he has smth big up his sleeves).. he wants to make Maoists yield to him and shift the momentum of power towards himself. But the ex-King understands that he is to be used as a pawn so he simply rejected....
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