http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1235958736634924283&q=Nepal

What a this guy talking about nepal.
Parmendra :
he is saying madeshi (deshi) is 50% in nepal, is he dreaming ? I am from Madesh and i know the figure . he is taking about School and he is trying to give wrong information about nepali and nepal. He is talking lots.

Tyo manchhe eklai camera ma kura gareko ho ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ... sachi nai pagal raichha.

bichara lai hamro local language bolna pani yadina . come to birgunj to learn madeshi language.What do you wanna learn bhojpuri or maithali. He can't even talk his mother tounge properly. Poor fellow

shree5,
I hear you and have the same feeling..
shiv

"The ugly voice of ego at its best."
Dear freedom-fighter,
You have mentioned about Gandhi's rail-trip in South Africa,the birth of his passion for justice.Even until end of his life he has admitted about the inner-satan he had to battle on the everyday basis.I think you should work on that part first before making pointless statements inciting hatred among brothers and sisters with false statistics.
To peace,prosperity and harmony among us,
Cheers!!!

Wow - what an angry man! :)

He raises some very valid points but his bitterness may make it hard for others to buy into what he has to say. I give him credit for dealing with hot button issues instead of brushing them aside but if his intent is to persuade then he might need to change tact.

I enjoyed the videos (and there were times I laughed, I admit)

waaaaaaaaaaah! so ugly! :D why can't he talk from a bit far distance? close up doesn't suit him at all.

I couldn't hear everything what he said (plus couldn't stand looking at the face so much..hehe)...but did he say nepali should speak hindi? No way, jose!!!! If he wants that...he should appy for Indian citizenship then.

white male, white female, minority male, minority female....
dyam moron.....calling yourself freedom fighter......tyo mula ko kothi chimatnu parne....arko gajendra naryan chaudhari....ek bela maile ne gajendra naryan sanga chunab prasar gardinchu bhanera 30 hajar jhuam gardeko....testa mula haru

:O thats it! something was bothering me about his face...couldn't figure it out until MM pinpointed it..its daaa koooti!! He should remove it....ASAP! Or maybe he is proud of it....hmmffpph.. :D after all..guys do have a weird sense of pride in their physics stuff.

What an Idiot;

He thinks every school in kathmandu shuld have 50% madhise, where only 2% madhise mostly workers (not students) live. He should be looking at schools in terai where he would find more than 50% madhise.

I am totally for equality among all nepali, including madhise, kirat, rai, limbu, newar, bahun, chhetri, kamaiya, sherpa, tamang, magar not just one jati.

He is a real snake. A person filld with racial hatred in his head will divide a country. I suppose he wants to be a leader. Another poisonus leader?? Nepal certainly doesn't need it.

Nepal has 50% madhise population?? I guess he is importing his supporters from Bihar, India sure would help him.

He has valid point with wrong intention. It is not uncommon in Nepal to supress Madhesi and he would have undergone some horrendous bullying experience for which he has so much hatred.

He feels more pride in becoming Indian than being Nepali and does not stop bosting some Tom and Hary( his relative was minister in Lalu Yadav corrupt ministry).This guy has potential to lead his community if he has right intention. Sometime blunt honest to confess he is strugling and jobless and almost 10 yrs lagging behind etc.

Needs to read more factual data about Nepal.

http://www.mope.gov.np/population/chapter5.php.

Finaly valid issue with wrong intention to fulfill personel ambition.

My best wishes for him if he leads his community in right direction with shear patriotism keeping Nepal and Nepali in best of interest.

It's fair to say -- and this is based on my very limited experience -- that we middle to upper-class Nepalis (and this includes all who visit this English-language site) are such utterly boring conformists (the ones who'd rather chase a string of safe successes for parental approval than take risks that challenge us to the core of our beings) that we have an incredibly LOW tolerance for other Nepalis

who:

a) do things differently
b) think differently
c) act differently
d) choose to live their lives differently.
e) define the words "success" and "happiness" by blazing their own paths on their own terms.

Let us not forget that many of history's greatest writers, poets, artists, philosophers, musicians . . were all deemed to be misfits in their own societies before being
redeemed as achievers.

There are some Nepalis who know exactly what they want to accomplish in life by
the age of 10. That's fine. Others are clueless -- though they are afraid to admit it to others -- even till the age of 50 as to what they want to do with their lives. That's
fine too.

In between, let there be plenty of room for experimentation, plenty of space to make mistakes and to learn from them, plenty of chances to experience the world in all its
raw forms, and to live large.

Even his worst critics grudgingly accept that Paramendra has a first-rate mind and enormous energy.

As someone who's known him since 1996 and have exchanged occasional emails with him, my sense is that: It's only a matter of time before Paramendra finds something in which he will go on to do so damn well that he will leave us all breathless with genuine envy and pride. [A brilliant mind is NOT an easy mind to live with, and I tell you this, after having watched the careers of some of the smartest people I have known.]

Meantime, I, for one, am willing to tolerate and give space to Paramendra's thoughts and ideas and to his idiosyncracies, while reserving the right to disagree with them without calling him names or making fun of him.

After all, as they say, often, the best way to see the big picture is to step out of the frame --something which, Paramendra has done more than enough in his life so far.

I wish him well, and I also wish I had half his energy.

oohi
ashu

My God Ashu,

Where in the flippin world have you been mate? I did miss reading your posts! Hugely. Do read your weekly ones in the Nepali Times - cracking. I need to shoot off for now, but will read your post above tom. Cheers.

With due respect, by generalizing a fairly large group of individuals "utterly boring conformists" and such, I think Mr. Tiwari might have just been oblivion of individual idiosyncrasies himself.

While I can take Mr. Tiwari's words for Mr. Bhagat's "first-rate mind and enormous energy", I cannot second him in promoting Mr. Bhagat's dissemination of information that is excessive in implied hatred, merely based on Mr. Tiwari's acquaintance with him.

If that makes me an utterly boring conformist, I guess I will have to live with that.

Echoes,

The operative phrase I used was: "based on my very limited experience".
Please go back and check.

So, yes: based on my very limited experience, I do feel entirely justified in
painting most of us as such . . . devoted to chasing a string of safe, predictable,
middle-class successes without ever risking anything to stand up for our beliefs.

This, by the way, is NOT a moral judgment -- but A point of view.
You are welcome to disagree with it based on YOUR own experience, and that's fine.

***

As for Paramendra, saying that people like him need to be tolerated even for their "wacky" views is DIFFERENT from saying that people like him are right.

As a non-Tarai bahun, I find his commentaries quite fun and refreshing and thought-provoking even when I do not agree with most of them.

My defense here is not to romanticise Paramendra's way of life and ideas but to underscore that so long as he does not harm anyone, let him do his thing. It's one thing to disagree with his ideas, but it's another to start psychoanalyze him in public as some are prone to do.

Why do some of us have trouble accepting him as a fellow Nepali who thinks differently from most of us? Why hammer him down to some conformity when he's one of a kind?

That said, I am confident that it's only a matter of time before he finds something in which he will go on to do very, very well. He has the smarts, and the energy.

**********

San Lauray,

Been really busy with work and travels.
Thank you for reading my fortnighly pieces in The Nepali Times.
Please feel free to disagree with what I have written there with your own counter-points so that the ensuing kura-kani will be much richer.

Many thanks.

oohi
ashu

Controversial / Wrong / Arrogant

Call him whatever you want, he is advocating for a cause he believes in. I don't want to judge whether he is right or wrong, but the baseline to what he is saying isn't a total hogwash.

A person who takes pride in his profession here in USA and his orientation, Mr. Bhagat is standing for a cause. Interestingly enough, little by little, people are noticing that. Be it in negative way or positive, the message has been erected and he is a quarterway successful already.

In my opinion, when it comes to making a sweeping generalization, "most of us" is better than an implied 'all of us'. Even more accurate perhaps would be "some of us".

Sure, no question that Mr. Bhagat is entitled his opinions regardless of their credibility or intent and I think he should be genuinely heard.

That said, when Mr. Bhagat or anyone (say, Joe Blow) makes a provocative public statement that is perceived offensive by a certain group people, it is only expected that the offended group of people will protest and some will seek to scrutinize the perceived offender. And I don't think there are universal terms of this protest or scrutiny.

In my view, this behavior is common and nothing specific to the "middle to upper-class Nepalis (and this includes all who visit this English-language site)". In fact, I find this very notion offensive.

Please give some times on these thread as well to know what is this guy talking about.

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=18493&show=all#106744
http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=22214

Acutally, I find Mr. Bhagat's opinions on the threads quoted more responsible and concrete than those in the video in question.

On a lighter note, it may not be too off the mark to say that if John McCain becomes the president, and Mr. Bhagat becomes a US citizen, he may have a chance for an American ambassadorships to Nepal! And quite frankly, that could be the most effective way for Mr. Bhagat to advance his cause in Nepal. :-)

Good day!

Echoes, एउटा थपुँ है,
...and Laxman Khadka becomes the Chief Executive of Nepal.

Keep rollling...

Good to see Ashu back.

Mr. Bhagats got some points. But there is exaggeration and biasness. There is definately issues of minority representaion.This not only includes Madeshi but also other minority groups.

His tone os speech shows he has more grunge than real motive to work for betterness of the whole nation. I doubt biasness if I see this person in leadership role.

The person is speaking in the regional language. There are many langauages in Nepal. All the languages cannot be provided same prioroty. Thats impossible. Also, we do not want to feel alienated while visiting the regional offices due to language barrier. SO, Nepali and English should be mode of communication in the offices.

Also the wannabe leaders should think about bringing the nation together and not to divide the already divided nation.

Minority issues must be dealt. But while dealing with these issues other minority group should not be left out.

We need a pro Nepali leaders. The leaders that are willing to listen to isssues of an ordinary Nepali(without looking at his background and oreintation).

peace out