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Covid-19 is real and vaccine is real. I wont wish it on my enemies. It can turn someone’s life upside down, like it did mine.

ब्रो: अंग प्रत्यारोहन को प्रतीक्षा ४ देखि ५ बर्स लाग्छ , हाल सुँगुर को मृगौ सफलतापुर्बक प्रत्यारोहण गरे | तपाइँ र तपाइका परिवारका निकटम सदस्य मृगौला फेर्न लाइ पर्खेर बस्नु भएको छ | यस अबस्थामा तपाई सुंगुरको मृगौला प्रत्यारोहणको लागि तयार हुनुहुन्छ? कि अर्को २ - ३ बर्स यो पछि यसमा थप सुधार हुने र विश्वास योग्य हुन्जेल पर्खिएर बस्नु हुन्छ ? कि कोभिड आफै निको हुन्छ, यो ठुला ठुला फर्मा कम्पनीको नोट छाप्ने मेलो मात्रै हो भनि प्रत्यारोहण नगर्न सल्लाह दिनु हुन्छ ?

Logan, not everything is black and white like your example. There is a great concept of placebo effect that you have to consider as well. On top of that, the narrative on the vaccine has kept changing from day one. Vaccines are supposed to stop person from getting infected with the virus. Many people keep getting infected even after the vaccine while lot of people without vaccines are not infected in the same setting. So you don't know even if the vaccine is effective or it's just the placebo effect. The mind and the body are very powerful agents in the universe. The universe has many medicines to ailments which are more powerful than any man made stuff which thesedays are geared more towards profit than anything else. The medical industry wants to keep you their customer and they want you to keep coming back. That's the harsh reality whether you accept it or not. To make it worse, the politicans get kickbacks from these super profitable corporations and at the end of the day it ends up being your faith that makes you a believer or a skeptic. Noone is wrong because you base your belief on the exposure and experience that you get personally. But some things are very weird as far as covid and covid vaccines go.

Hi Independent, I am not trolling, just trying to have a rational conversation

"the narrative on the vaccine has kept changing from day one." - Science is always evolving. eg : in earlier days we used to consider only 3 states of mater now there is 4th.
"Vaccines are supposed to stop person from getting infected with the virus." - not sure about this, cause from when I know I knew about efficacy rate.
"Many people keep getting infected even after the vaccine while lot of people without vaccines are not infected in the same setting." - this is true, but mortality rate is higher in unvaccinated
"The medical industry wants to keep you their customer and they want you to keep coming back. That's the harsh reality whether you accept it or not." - this is true, capitalism
"the politicans get kickbacks from these super profitable corporations and at the end of the day it ends up being your faith that makes you a believer or a skeptic." - this is true, we need to take money out of politics

Mr33Sajha Always open for rational conversation. Keep it up. 

Hi Independent,

"Science evolves slowly like it takes years for one scientific fact to change. " - the discoveries in 1800s were so slow, but it evolved lot faster in 1900s, right now there are so many people studying covid and the known facts are evolving a lot in short period of time.

"As mortality rate has been calculated erratically counting unrelated deaths as covid deaths in many institutions and using inaccurate testing methology of PCR testing to assert the death numbers, the whole statistics of covid is questionable if not just unbelievable." - say if what you are saying is true and they are chalking it up as covid death as you said, then should not vaccinated death/hospitalization rate and unvaccinated be proportional? not lopsided on 1 side.

Mr33Sajha

1. You could be wrong - agreed
2. I could be wrong - agreed
3. There is a growing concern that medical corporations are in cahoots with politicians to increase their profits - agreed, I am all in for socialization of health care industry
4. till now data shows vaccinated individuals have less mortality rate and hospitalization rate

5. Across history, we have seen data has been cooked many times to fit the narrative of the ruling class.
6. FDA has recalled many medicines that they had approved before
7. FDA approved medications have caused injury and death in the past.

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