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मधेश छोड्न पाहाडी वासिन्दालाई टाइगर्सको चेतावनी
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Posted on 03-05-07 6:17
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what these so called tigers trying to prove now.. REAd the news.. सुनसरी- मधेश मुक्ति टाइगर्सले मधेश आन्दोलनको अवधि भरी पहाडी मूलका नेपालीहरुलाई मधेश छाड्न चेतावनी दिएको छ । शनिवार टाइगर्सका केन्द्रीय संयोजक राजनद्वारा जारी गरिएको विज्ञप्तिमा सो चेतावनी दिइएको छ । विज्ञप्तिमा पहाडी मुलका नेपालीहरुले आफ्नो चेतावनीलाई बेवास्ता गर्दै मधेश नछाडे फौजी कारवाही गरिने जनाइएको छ । मधेशी जनतालाई समानता र मानवाधिकारबाट बञ्चित राख्ने खस ब्राम्हणवादी राज्यसत्ताले भुटानी शरणार्थी, आसामी तथा बर्मेलीहरुलाई मधेशी भुमिको अतिक्रमणमा छुट दिएको विज्ञप्तिमा उल्लेख गरिएको छ । मधेश माथिको पहाडीयाहरुको अतिक्रमणलाई नियन्त्रण गर्न बुधबार राती सुनसरीको हरिपुरबाट ११ जनालाई नियन्त्रणमा लिनु परेको विज्ञप्तिमा उल्लेख छ । विज्ञप्तिमा मधेशभुमीमा कार्यरत सरकारी कर्मचारी, सुकुम्बासी लगायतकाले मधेशको संस्कृति, भाषा, भेषभूषा र कर स्वीकार गरे कुनै पनि कारवाही नगरिने तर दौरा, सुरुवाल र टोपी लगाई मधेशभुमीमा हिंड्डुल गर्ने जो कोहीलाई पनि फौजी कारवाही गरिने चेतावनी दिईएको छ । राज्यले मधेश र मधेशी जनताको मागलाई बेवास्ता गरेको उल्लेख गर्दै विज्ञप्तिमा संविधान सभाको निर्वाचन मधेश र मधेशी जनताका लागि धोका भएकाले त्यसको कुनै औचित्य नरहेको उल्लेख गरिएको छ । यसैबीच टाइगर्सद्वारा बुधबार राती अपहरित ११ जनालाई शुक्रबार राती सप्तरीको जोगनीयाबाट मुक्त गरिएको छ । मधेशी मानवअधिकारकर्मी जङ्गबहादुर सिंह र सञ्चारकर्मी पङ्कज झाको रोहबरमा शनिवार भित्रमा मधेश छाड्ने शर्तमा मुक्त गरिएको अधिकारकर्मी सिंहले जानकारी दिनुभयो ।
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sarojlover
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Posted on 03-08-07 1:50
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i knew maddogg it was yur pic.. hope there was no copyright on it.. the pic well suited the situation..
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Posted on 03-08-07 2:35
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Hey i dont care about madhesi tigers or lions or who ever assholes are them, i will murder them and distroy their existence in this world. I a looking ofr some sharp shooters who can kill these ass holes likes upendre yadav, and so called boss of tigers or wat ever. can anybody give some suggestion. i think it is time to rage against these asss holes. kill hem and make them sufer.
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Posted on 03-08-07 3:32
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Morbid Angel: I dont know what it means. The last i heard of it was that its a metal band (???). Anywayz, just wanna jot down few words in response to ur bahaduri (I mean murdering all those tigers and lions). So, u gonna kill them. And then what?? Most probably create 10 other such people. And what solution wud u have then?? I am sure you wud say kill em again, resulting in creation of 1000 of such ppl. And then what, nuke em??(If u can get one, though!!) As far as i can see (or as a matter of fact other people as well), that wud probably be not a very bright idea. Try and find where the problem is. And then go for the solution. Its easy to kill people. All you need is a gun and some bullets in it. But I am sure it would be pretty tough on you to listen to their problem and see where their demands are coming from. I do beleive they are Nepali just like u and me, and i do beleive that they have equal rights to every thing that we (so called pahadiya) been enjoying ever since. Saying so, I do not agree with their violent method of putting their perspectives. But if they have a problem then we should be ready to listen and solve em (if possible, and if eligible).
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Posted on 03-08-07 4:00
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यो पिरेब्रोले पनि कस्तो कुरा नबुझ्या, त्यो लोकसेवा नै त हो नि समस्या को जड्, नेपाली मात्र लेखेर हुन्छ र? त्यहाँ त सुद्द नेपाली को जरुरत हुन्छ ।अब भन्नोस् जस्को मदर टङ नेपलि होइन तिनिहरुले कसरि सुद्द लेख्ने? यसैको कारण त बाहुनहरु (जस्को केहि दोश छैन)धेरैले सर्कारि जगिर पड्काएका छन । अब आमृकामा सय थरि जात भए त त अर्कै कुरा हुन्थ्यो याहा, फेरि बिदेशिले याहाको नियम बदल्ने कुरा पनि भएन | तर तराइबासिहरु बिदेशि होइनन नि नेपालमा? सुद्द नेपालि न आए पनि यदि उस्को बुद्धि उत्कृश्ट छ भने किन रोक्ने अरु जातिय भाइहरुलाइ सर्कारि जगिर खान? कुनै अरु तरिकाले नापतौल गर्नुपर्यो।।त्यो लोकसेवाको मापदन्डमा धेरै त्रुटिहरु छन जस्ले गर्दा नेवारले ब्यापारि, तराइबासिले कृषक, राइ गुरुङ् लिम्बु ले लाहुरे, बाहुन क्षेतृ ले जागिरे बाकि सबै अभागि जस्तो सन्कुचित जातिय तक्मा भिरनु परेको छ । राष्ट्री य भाषा नेपाली नै हुनुपर्यो सजिलोको लागि तर गासबास को लागि पनि नेपाली भाषा नै सुद्द जान्न पर्यो भन्नु त भएन । यत्त्रो आन्दोलनहरुको जड्को एउटा कारण अनि कत्रो बाहुन छेत्री माथिको लान्छनाको जड् यही लोकसेवा नै हो । बहु भाषाले पनि समस्या समाधन् हुदैन। ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ तराई_बासी, तपाईंको कुरा धेरै स हि हो तर अरुले तुक्ष्य लेखाँदै मा त्यो भारतीय एड को कुरा नगरौ त्यसमा उन्को स्वार्थको गन्ध छ नत्र खुलेआम कालापानीमा मिचेर बसदैन थियो, यो एड होइन भारतीय जबर्जस्ती को पैचो हो, नेपालको सार्वभौमिकता लाइ सम्मान गरुन्, एड जरुरी छैन,नेताहरुलाइ होलान
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Posted on 03-08-07 6:11
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terai basi dont give me sh*t about how people like you are this and that. Its all bull because the rights you are demanding for yourselves are the rights deserved by indigenious people of that country not given to people who says they require 3 million citizenship and be given that rights. Indegineous people have been deprived and I will definately support that, but as far as giving rights to Madhesis goes they only get that right where they are majority and nowhere else, because this incident of MJF proves the fact that if you give them enough power they will bring the country down.
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Posted on 03-08-07 6:12
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By the way, tell me how many Pahade has abducted Madhesi and told them to leave the hill before you come here and give me you sh*t about its because of people like.
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Posted on 03-08-07 12:15
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All people of Nepal, both Pahades and Madhesis, should try to save Nepal. There were problems in the past, you could not express your dissatisfactions then. Now we have a new Nepal in the making. Let us hold each other's hands, learn past's mistakes, put behind our past and together create a peaceful country. Let us not be agitated and rush towards violence. We don't want to kill each other and our own folks. Pahades are silently watching the agitations so far, so should Madhesis carry out silent protests. I'm sure they understand Nepal is poor, and will be poorer if divided. United, we stay strong and maybe will be able to earn something for all of us. -----------
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Posted on 03-08-07 6:46
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Test Director here is you answer to developing together with the Madhesi. 26 injured in violence during Tarai bandh http://www.thehimalayantimes.com/fullstory.asp?filename=aNPata0rbqzpa5a1Ua6ra.axamal&folder=aNPataiaoanaaal&Name=National&sImageFileName=&dtSiteDate=20070309 These bastards are misbehaving with people and it wont be long before we start to pick up weapon and start killing these bastards. They forgot the incident in Hariwan Sarlahi when one of their cadre were brutally murdered and many injured.
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Posted on 03-08-07 6:52
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तपाईको कुरो नि सहि हो। मधेसी हरु धेरै क्षेत्रमा पछडि पर्या छन। तर के गर्ने त अब? फोकटाँ डाक्टर, इन्जिनियर, अधिकृतको सिट बाँड्ने? त्यो त भएन नि। Absolutely not. Tyo ta hundai bhaena ra tyasaile that is not the demand of the agitating madhesis. सबै चिजमा त्यसरी गन्न नि हुन्न क्या। हामी तिस प्रतिशत, खै हाम्रो मधेसमा तिस प्रतिसत हिमाल, खै हाम्रोमा तिस प्रतिसत ढुँगा भन्न नि हुन्न। Those who want can keep the 30% dhunga and 30% himal :-) The demand is for a fair percentage of government representation. Not for rocks or mountains and land and tangible assets. Its for rights. हाम्रो देशमा शुरुमा पढ्नेहरु खाली बाहुन (मधेसि र पहाडिया दुबै) मात्र हुन। सत्र साल सम्म। अनि त्यहि बेलाका मान्छेले अहिले सम्म ओगटेर बसेका छन। मधेसको सबै जिल्लामा स्कुल पुगेको कति भो, कति प्रतिशत ले एसएलसि पास गर्छन् त्यो नि हेर्न पर्छ। पढ्दा टप गर्ने बाहुन छन भने तिनलाई जागिर नदिएर अरुलाई दिदा देश अगाडि त बढ्दैन? यहि अमेरिकामायुनिभर्सिटिहरु, डाक्टर, इन्जिनियर आदि हेर्यो भने टन्नै एसियन देखिन्छन। अब के तिनलाई हटाएर जम्मै साउथका लाई ल्याउने? I dont want to comment on America. but once again the demand in Nepal is not for new engineers and doctors to replace the old ones. where do u think the new ones are going to come from. there are none. these things take time, as you rightly said. And the struggle is for a start to this process. तर त्यसो भन्दैमा मैले मधेसी पछाडिनै पर्या छैनन भन्न खोजेको चाहि हैन। हेपाइ पनि खा'छन। आफ्नु आँखाले देखेको कुरो देख्याछैन भन्दिन म। तर यस्तो कुरो बिस्तारै मात्र सोल्भ हुन्छ। That is your greatness. and that is why we can have a mature conversation. Unlike the "bahadurs" around here. सिडियो आदि जाँचको लागि लोकसेवा को जाँच हुन्छ, सबैले त्यो फेयर छ भन्छन। अब लड्न पर्यो नि। यो अमेरिकामा आएर अँग्रेजिमा पढेर लड्न हुने, नेपालमा चाहि नेपालीमा लड्दिन भन्न हुन्छ? I havent heard about its fairness or unfairness so I dont know about it. But once again, why arent there any Madhesis in administration? If madhes has schools, has had schools since as long as pahad has had schools. If madhes has had bahuns for as long as pahad has had bahuns, then why arent madhesis fairly represented in administration? please refer to some of the research studies online or excerpts posted here on sajha to find the exact, dismal and shameful figure of madhesis in administration. Is it because madhesis are just generally stupid than pahadis thats why in lok sewa aayog, they dont do as well? I dont ujnderstand what u mean by "america aayera english ma padhera ladna hune . . . ." but for those who are fighting this is the same ladai u r talking about that we are seeing. तैपनि म त लोक सेवाको जाँच को प्रश्न पत्र सात वटा भाषामा निकाल्ने भने नि मान्छु, I would personally like to see it in Nepali and English only. National language and international language. तर मधेसिले नेपालि नजानेर दुख पाको जस्तो लाग्दैन।अनि फाइनल्लि, त्यो ज्वाला फ्वालाको धम्कि चाहि दिनु हुन्न। कसैले नि। त्यो सेब्स-अनलाइनमा मैले आनन्द झाले लेखेको पढ्या थिएँ, यो फोरमले राम्ररी बार्ता नगरे म जस्ता मान्छे ज्वाला को पछि लाग्छम भनेको थियो। त्यो चाहि बेकार को ध्वास हो। Tyo rees tapai Anad Jha sanga pokhnus. Maile padheko chaina. But if the current pahadi prasashan does not heed the madhesi demands made in a largely peaceful non-violent way and madhesis dont want to go back to being opressed, please tell me what option remains. I dont take this as a threat, I take this as a warning. Maybe Anand Jha said it too roughly and I know I have said it roughly too in the past but now I wanna put it mildly. If peaceful, non-violent protests are not paid attention to by the current administration, then there are 2 choices for madhesis. go back to being B grade citizens or choose extreme measures. i hope the administration listens. there is no third option. किन भन्दा अल्लि पहिला मैले मेरो एकजना इण्डियन साथीलाई (बंगाली) मधेसको समस्याको बारेमा बुझाउन खोज्दै थिएँ,उसले सोध्यो, 'के फरक छ तिमिहरुमा, उनीहरुको धर्म फरक हो?' 'हैन' 'भाषा फरक हो?' 'हो। तर बोलेको सबैले बुझ्छन प्रायस।' 'इण्डियामा तामिलि र हिन्दिको मारामार हुँदा त केहि भा'छैन। त्यसो भए के फरक हो त?' 'हामी अलि अलि गोरो, उनीहरु अलि अलि कालो। त्यो पनि एसी मा बसेपछि उहि हुन्छ।' 'चाडपर्ब?' 'अलि अलि। उनीहरु छठ मान्छन। हामी मन्दैनौँ। तर कमन धेरै छ।' भनेसी ब्रदर, यदि तपाईहरु हामी सँग मिलेर बस्न नसक्ने हो भने कोहि सँग नि मिलेर बस्न सक्दैन। tapai haru sanga basna nasakne athawa basana na chahe ko bhae street protest hoina armed insurgency hunthyo. The fact that MOST madhesis are following Upendra Yadav in the streets and not Goit with guns is proof that most madhesis want to stay in Nepal, as EQUAL NEPALIS. इण्डियनको लागि त तपाईहरु बार्गेनिङ चिप मात्र हो। उडिसा, तामिल को ब्युरोक्र्याटको लागि तपाईंहरु भन्दा हामी हरु नजिक होला अझ , राजाको नातासंबन्धले।यस्तो बेला त्यो ज्वाला फ्वाला को ग्रुपमा लागेर लड्नेहो भने मधेसीलाई जति दुख कसैलाई हुदैन। I didnt understand. Please explain. एक त सारा पहाडियाले लड्नु पर्छ भनेर आर्मीलाई साथ दिन्छन्। भारतले त श्रीलंकामा त केहि गर्न सकेन, तेत्रा तामिलले सिम्प्याथी जनाउदा, नेपालमा त केहि गर्दैन, गर्न पनि सक्दैन। तेहि भएर यो ससस्त्र संघर्षको बेसुरको राग न-अलापौँ। खाली मधेसी लाई प्रोब्लेम हुने हो। लोकपृय पनि हुन्न। यो फोरमको लोकपृयता त हात्ति आयो हात्ति आयो फुस्सा हो। Please explain मेरो बिचारमा फोरम र यसले उचालेका रगत उम्लेका केहि कार्यकर्ताको गल्ति के भने उनीहरुलाई सिविल् राइट मूवमेण्ट भनेको के हो भन्ने था'छैन। यसको भिक्टोरि ढिलो हुन्छ। मधेसमा गएर सिन्को नभाँच्ने, आफ्नै मधेसीको भोट ल्याउन नसक्ने, बिश्वास जित्न नसक्ने अनि काठमाण्डुमा वा अमेरिकामा बसेर किन पहाडियाले मधेस बाट चुनाब जिते भनेर सिट गन्ने गर्न हुन्न। Nagare kasari thaha huncha ki pahadi prasashan le electoral constituency lai pro-pahadi angle le divide garya cha. online hernus electoral constituency ko map, thaha huncha. harek constituency south dekhi sojhai north samma gaeko cha. Add to that the fact that madhesis dont get citizenships. So u can see how pahadis win the election from madhesi constituencies. Yo bujhera ta aba sinko bhaanchna thaalya ho madhesi haru le. By the way, world history ma yo democracy ko purano "loop hole" ho. Last time I saw this was Republicans trying to re-draw the constituencies in California to their benefit a few years ago. I dont care about California so I didnt follow up on it. But this is an old technique. Your people keep winning and you can say "go win the election, who is stopping you" मधेसको ४९% सिट जित्ने बित्तिकै तपाइहरुले चाहेको कुरो हन सक्छ। भएन भने विद्रोह गर्नु छदैंछ। पहिला तराईमा पपुलर हुन पर्यो, खै फोरमले उखु किसानलाई दुख दिएर बन्द गर्यो, यसरि पपुलर हुन्छ? Dherai unpopular bhaeko jasto ta laagdaina malai tara ukhu sukaera ta aaja samma koi popular bha chaina. Ra hamile chaheko kura seat paaune bittikai hundaina. but it'll be a start. and we want a start. these things take time. but u have to start somewhere. sometime. Now. अब अरु ठाउँमा पनि मधेसीलाई अगाडि ल्याउन पर्छ भन्ने कुरोमा सहमत। अझ दलित, महिला आदिलाई पनि। तर पढ्न नि पर्यो नि मधेसीले नि। मधेसी युवाहरुले पनि गाउँघरमा गएर डटेर काम गर्नु पर्यो। पढेकाले अरुलाई जागरुक बनाउन पर्यो।पहाडियाहरु राक्षस हुन, उपनिवेसबादि हुन, मारौं, काटौं भन्दै हिड्न भएन। कुनै पहाडियाले मधेसीलाई मारेर जग्गा लिएको हैन, नभा'को कुरो लाई तेसै बनाउन नि हुदैन, आफ्नो आत्मले पनि मान्नु पर्यो नि ब्रदर। Absolutely. I agree. अनि मौका हरु भाको देखाउन नि पर्यो। डाक्टर, इन्जिनियर, फोरेस्टर आदि टन्न छन मधेसीहरु, त्यो पनि acknowledge गर्नु पर्यो। for acknowledgement some sort of official figures, some official study, some verifiable information would help a lot. What I have seen so far acknowledges that doctor engineer ra forester haru tannai chan tara population ko ratio ma herne ho bhane pahadi ko comparison ma kei pani chaina. त्यसै हामिलाई अमेरिकामा कालालाई जस्तो गर्यो भनेर फटाहाकुरो गर्न हुदैन, आफ्नै मधेसीले पत्याउदैनन। Kalle garyo yesto kura? link haru post garnus na ta. kun gadha le yesto kuro garyo? paramendra bhagat bhae chain post na garnu hola.
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These bastards are misbehaving with people and it wont be long before we start to pick up weapon and start killing these bastards. They forgot the incident in Hariwan Sarlahi when one of their cadre were brutally murdered and many injured. You dont have to pick weapons man. You have the whole pahadi armed police to carry weapons for you. They killed 30+ people already? How many did Gyane kill? But if it makes u happy, go pick a weapon. Jyaanmara hatyaara. By the way, if you had ever been out of Kathmandu, you would know that no one calls it HARIWAN.
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Hey terai basi where was your dumb ass when JMTT killed a Pahadi infront of his kids in a bus in Siraha. Why did you not say anything then and now you are here to defend your group JMTT. If you want to talk about history tell me when any Pahadi picked up weapons to kill a Madhesi infront of his kids. Dont come here and calll me Jyaanmara Hatyaara you are just another PERMENDRA BHAGAT trying to publicize your group. Tell me what they call Hariwan then.
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समय बित्दै जाँदा मधेसी आन्दोलन पनि संग्लिदै गएर यसले स्वच्छ, शान्त र सक्रियतावादी स्वरुप ग्रहण गर्नेछ भन्ने कुरामा मलाई विश्वास छ । त्यसैले केही अतिशयोक्तिवाद र देखाजायगावाद हावी भएको देख्तादेख्तै पनि मैले संकोचविहिन समर्थन गरेको हुँ । मधेसी आन्दोलनको पहिलो खेपले मधेसी र राष्ट्रिय दुवै महत्वको कम्तीमा दुई ठूला उपलब्धी दियो मेरो विचारमा । एउटा सार्वभौमिक महत्वको कुरा- यसले मधेसी समुदाय वञ्चित भईरहेको "ईज्जत" लाई पुनर्स्थापना गरिदियो । अब एउटा मधेसीलाई प्रत्यक्ष अपहेलना गर्न एउटा शहरिया पहाडी हिच्किचाउने छ । वास्तवमा मधेसी आन्दोलनले हाम्रो पुरानो राष्ट्रिय चेतलाई नराम्ररी हल्लाईदिएको छ । यो अत्यन्त जरुरी थियो र सफलतापूर्वक सम्पन्न भयो पनि । दोश्रो, राजनैतिक महत्वको कुरा, आठदलले झण्डै झण्डै बिर्सन खोजिसकेको कुरा- संघात्मक पुनर्संरचना- लाई पुनर्जीवित गरिदियो मधेसी आन्दोलनले नै । पुनर्जीवित मात्तै होईन, आठैदलले यसप्रति प्रतिवद्धता पुन: व्यक्त समेत गर्नु पर्यो । मधेशलाई मात्र लाभ हुने र पहाडलाई अन्याय हुने प्रकृतिको माँग ("भौगोलिक विकटता" प्रति अन्धो रहने चुनावी बाँडफाँड) पुरा गराउन पनि मधेसी आन्दोलन सफल भयो । तर यसप्रति मेरो कुनै गर्व छैन । मधेसी समुदायको ईज्जतवर्धन र संघात्मक संरचनाको बहस (बहस मात्र नि, जातिय संघकै मामलाको कुरा गरेको होईन) को प्रक्षेपणको लागि मधेसी आन्दोलनले मेरो सलाम पाउँछ । किन्तु, परन्तु ... (सि के लालप्रति क्षमायाचना सहित), मधेसी आन्दोलन वयस्क हुँदै जानु पर्ने बेलामा यसलाई केटाकेटीकरण गर्ने काम भएको छ यो दोश्रो चरण भनिएको आन्दोलनमा । मधेसी आन्दोलनको राजनैतिक नेतृत्व पनि हाम्रो राष्ट्रिय राजनैतिक नेतृत्व जस्तै एउटै ड्याङका नालायक मुला देखिए । माँग र शैली दुवैमा केटाकेटीपन छ । अबको खेपको आन्दोलन मुठ्ठीभरले संचालन गर्ने बन्द र तोडफोड होईन विशाल विशाल शान्तिपूर्ण मानव-महासागर उराल्ने प्रदर्शन, बहस, वार्ता र अनवरत सक्रियतावाद (activism) ले गर्ने आन्दोलन भएमा मात्र समर्थित हुन्छ भन्ने कुरो आन्दोलनका संचालकले बुझ्न नसकेको देखिन्छ । मैले माथि भनेनी नेपालको पुरानो राष्ट्रिय चेतलाई मधेसी आन्दोलनको पहिलो चरणले नै नराम्ररी हल्लाईदिइसकेको छ । तर आन्दोलनका संचालकहरु भने धित नमरेर हो कि बढी झर्छ भनेर हो हल्लाएको हल्लाएइ गरिरहन चाहिरहेका छन् । फेरि माँगलाई पनि 'एउटा बलिको बोको देउ' भन्ने जस्तो केटाकेटौलेपनमा पुर्याएर टुङ्ग्याएका छन् । बलिको बोको नै खोजेको हो भने एउटा स्यानो पाठो किन खोज्ने, ठूलै डुङडुङती गन्हाएर बसेको माउ बोको पो ताक्नुपर्छ । होईन, बलीको बोको नभएर दण्डप्रणाली खोजेको हो भने भने, खोई प्रणालीगत सुधारको सुझाव/माँग ? खोई अनुशासनविहिन प्रदर्शनकारीले समेत दण्ड भोग्नुपर्ने आधारभूत मान्यताको स्वीकार ? अब बाँकी रह्यो समानुपातिक चुनाव प्रणालीको माँग । मैले धेरै पटक भनिसके, केही मधेसी विद्वानहरु सामु च्यालेञ्जको रुपमा समेत राखेको हुँ, यो माँग राख्ने स्वयंलाई के माँगेको हो भुतोभाङ थाहा छैन । पूर्ण समानुपातिक प्रणाली न सम्भव छ, न उपयुक्त छ, न त माग्ने स्वयंले नै थेग्न सक्छ । सम्भव, उपयुक्त र खोजेको भनेको अर्धसमानुपातिक प्रणाली हो, जुन कुरा मधेसी आन्दोलन जन्मनुभन्दा पहिल्यै पुरा भईसकेको छ, अन्तरिम सम्विधानमा । त्यसैले अब कुनै जल्दोबल्दो राजनैतिक माँग बाँकी छैन । अब त मधेसी सबलीकरणका दीर्घकालिन र मिहिन कुराहरुमा सक्रियतावाद देखाउनुपर्ने चरण हो । अहिले जुन केटाकेटौले शैली र माँगमा आन्दोलन भईरहेछ, गैरमधेसीको त कुरै छाडौं राष्ट्रिय स्तरका मधेसी नेताहरुले पनि असमर्थन जनाईरहेका छन् । हालको मधेसी आन्दोलनको दिशा, लक्ष र शैलीलाई छिट्टै ठीक ठाउँमा ल्याएनन् भने आन्दोलनका नाईकेहरु हाम्रो दलहरुले एक जमानामा सकिनसकि एक दर्जन जति कार्यकर्ताहरुलाई रत्नपार्कमा उभ्याउने खालको आन्दोलनमा गएर तुरिनेछन् र वृहद मधेसी सक्रियतावाद भने पुरानै मधेसी नेतृत्वको हातमा फर्किनेछ । तर मधेसी आन्दोलनको अवनति र त्यसबाट पुग्ने क्षतिको लागि भने म आन्दोलनकारीलाई द्वितियक मात्र र सरकारलाई चाही प्राथमिक जिम्मेवार देख्छु । यस बारे चाही अर्को पटक ।
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i am so sad at what nepal has been seeing these days ..a country of brave is now a country of corrupts and pussies ..NO SINGLE MOTHERFOCKER HAS A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND NO MOTHERFOCKER ARE EDUCATED ...OHH YEA BABURAM IS EDUCATED RIGHT ..LMFAO ..AND YEA SEE THE MOST OF THE NEPALI POPULATION IS REALLY UNEDUCATED ..I GUARAN-FOKIN-TEE EVERYONE HERE THAT ALMOST 90% OF EITHER MAOISTS OR MADHESIS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE FOCK THEY ARE DOIN ..ITS THOSE EDUCATED PEOPLE OR CORRUPT PEOPLE LIKE BABURAM, PRACHANDA AND GIRIJA WHO START THIS KINDA SHIT ...GYANENDRA MIGHT HAVE DONT THIS TOO ..BUT AGAIN WHOEVER IS DOING THIS ..MADHESIS SHOULD NOT DEMAND THIS MUCH ..AAFNO GHATI HERERA HAAD NILNU PARCHA ..U HAVE VERY LOW LITERACY RATE ..YOU GUYS SHOULD PASS THAT LOK SEWA TO GET JOBS ..NOT BY RESERVING SEATS FOR YOU GUYS ..TRY TO COMPETE ..DONT BE A PUSSY AND BEG FOR IT ..THATS NOT NEPALI ..NEPALI ARE BRAVE ..LISTEN TO THAT SONG BANEKO CHA PAHARALE ..THATS WHAT REAL NEPALI IS ABOUT ..U MADHESIS ARE BEGGING ..DONT DO THAT IF YOU GUYS ARE NEPALI ..BEGGING FOR GOVERNMENT POSTS ..LOLLLL
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Thanks Bhudda These are the people most illiterate, unemployed, selfish, and corrupted and could not digest anything without disturbing the country. Shame to them who beg without hard work. Compete without begging if they are really son of Nepal. 104 years of RANA tantra, 42 years of PANCHAYETI tantra , 10 years of corrupted POLITICAL tantra and and… 5 years of TERRORIST tantra … all of them damage the country very badly but but.. none of them tries to cut own’s mother neck.
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तराइबासी बर्दर, तपाईको सबैजसो कुरो सँग अग्री छु। मैले पनि के सोचेको छु भने मधेसी हरु धनी नभै देश धनी हुदैन। फेरी मधेसीहरुलाई चान्स दियो भने यिनीहरु गर्नसक्ने जात पनि छ। उपेन्द्र महतो, आदित्य झा जस्ता सेठ छन, र अझ तपाईले कति मधेसी गायक देख्नु भा'छ नेपालाँ? मैले था'पा'को एकजना हो, उदित नारायण, चान्स पाएपछि उसले अहिले सारा संसारमा नाम राखेको छ। तेस्तो हुँदा हुँदै किन अरु मधेसीहरु गायक भैराख्याछैनन, त्यो बुझ्न सक्दिन। मधेसीलाई पछि पारेर देश अघि बढ्दैन भन्ने त अन्धो लाई नि था'छ नि ब्रो। तर यो उपेन्द्र यादब भन्ने मान्छे को हो, को हो, मलाई त राजाबादि हो जस्तो लाग्छ, चुनाब कसरी गर्न नदिने भन्ने नाटक्गर्दै छ। यसको सिटौलाको राजीनामाको माग पुरा गरेपछि यसले फेरि अर्को अत्तो थाप्छ। माग गर्नु त मधेसीलाई भलो हुने माग गर्नु, किन फलानोले राजिनामा दे भन्नु पर्ने। डेमोक्र्याटिक सरकारमा रेल पल्टे राजिनाम दिन्छन भन्छन, ए बाबा, इण्डियामा रेल पल्टे राजिनामा दिन्छन, तर प्रतिपक्षि पार्टीको र्यालीमा , बन्दमा गोलि चल्दा लेजिटिमेट पार्टीको गृहमन्त्रीले राजिनामा दिया कुनै उदाहरण छ भन्या? सिटौला गलत भए जेलै पठाउन पर्यो, अनि सहि भए किन राजिनामा दिने? अनि नेपे ब्रो, त्यो तपाई र ने२३पे लेख्ने मान्छे एउटै हो कि के हो? म त एउटै भनेर सोचिराथें। अनि ज्वाला सिंहको अन्तर्बार्ता हेरौं। पहिले माग स्वतन्त्र नेपाल रे अनि दोश्रो मागमा आर्मीमा समान प्रतिनिधित्व रे। ------ Jwala Singh, real name Nagendra Paswan, proves that you do not have to climb very high to become a powerful dalit in Nepal. In this case, the head of the most violent—but not the most important or largest—faction of the JTMM. Recently we met Paswan in a bare hotel room off a muddy street in small-town Bihar, where everything he and his two companions had could fit into a small holdall. Out of consideration for his guests he left the room to smoke, though he had no compunction about spitting in the corner. He invited us to join him under blankets on the bed and passed around an old studio shot of himself, declining to be photographed as he currently appears. Talking to Paswan is strikingly similar to speaking with a district level Maoist leader—albeit an especially friendly one—during the conflict. He reeled off the short list of killings and attacks he has commissioned with apparent indifference. Paswan started out as a journalist, mainly for leftist publications. For a while he ran his own newspaper, and was vice-president of the Siraha chapter of the Federation of Nepalese Journalists for six years. Paswan then had a stint with the Maoists, splitting from them in 2004 over the appointment of Matrika Yadav as head of the Maoist-affiliated Tarai Mukti Morcha. He formed the JTMM with Jai Krishna Goit, notionally to fight for complete tarai independence. His early battles after going freelance were against his former comrades. To hear Paswan tell it, it was not so much a repudiation of Maoist ideas that led to the split as a divergence of interests. He still talks about revolution coming from poverty and suppression. But, he says, “the Maoists didn’t have a clear vision of madhesi rights. We don’t want to be devotees or partners of pahadis. If we do that, there won’t be any liberation of the tarai.” Paswan soon parted ways with Goit who, he says, “was already 80, always sick, he couldn’t remember dates.” Paswan says he broke away because “the tarai movement needed sacrifice and youth”, and because it was what JTMM cadres wanted. According to one of his followers about 150 former Maoists are in the group, some with their original weapons. The JTMM-J says it has “full strength” in 13 districts and “agents” in five more. The JTMM-J organised “some attacks and bandas” and during the tarai movement earlier this year hit at least three police posts, killing a policeman called “Karki something” Paswan recalls. The group lost some of its own people, including five in a single incident. By now, he says, “Our front has proved that we are brave and revolutionary.” Since mid-February, when the government invited madhesi groups for talks, Goit has not yet responded, and the Madhesi Janadhikar Forum’s ‘Uprendraji’ is putting increasing pressure on the government. Paswan, who has the weakest profile of the three, immediately accepted the offer. He issued a list of nine demands, and added another the next day as if as an afterthought. The first demand is an independent tarai state, which he insists must run the length of the country. But the second, fair representation for madhesis in the military, politics and administration, suggests that the demand for independence is rhetorical. “We believe in negotiations and negotiations are about give and take,” Paswan explains. “If the government addresses these problems [of discrimination] and establishes a federal state with self-government, the negotiations might succeed.” The JTMM-J is still waiting for their tarai rivals to follow before the talking can start. Given his apparent urge for credibility, does Paswan intend to contest the constituent assembly election? “Yes, if negotiations succeed and madhesi rights are guaranteed. Our fight is for power and rights,” he says, apparently to the surprise of the two boys sitting with him. Paswan smoked another cigarette, explaining that he was under a lot of stress. We left the hotel together and he tramped off down the muddy street, with his two young followers and their little bag.
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>अनि नेपे ब्रो, त्यो तपाई र ने२३पे लेख्ने मान्छे एउटै हो कि के हो? >म त एउटै भनेर सोचिराथें। Pire-jyu, No wonder you were doubting this Nepe's republic credentials elsewhere ;-) Nepe
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The present government knowing the unanimous and immesurable power of Madheshis in Nepal has declared that the Madheshis be provided with more seats which Madheshis demanded as 49% of total seats on the basis of population.But it is this point of time in history Madheshis must be aware about the conspiracies made by the present Pahade government. The government wants to run Madheshis in its will and desire.The present Pahadi government is deciding what it is going to do with Madheshi demands.Infact the government is deciding what we Madheshis have to do by neglecting our power.If Madhesh and Madheshi people go on adopting what the government says today, the Madhesh is sure to be divided tomorrow within ourselves and we do not have freedom at all as we all Madhehis are pressurized under the present Pahade government time and again.We will get freedom even if we adopt the decision of government this time, but that will take another 238 years, lots of suffering and once destruction of too many Madheshi lifes and Madhesh infrastructure.And this brutal Pahade government has realized that we Madheshis are not going to give them another chance.This time we will come with full and final result.Infact it was not the first demand of Madheshis to directly come to the conclusion set forth by government currently. The madheshis demand was first to make assured that Krishna Prasad Sitaula resign and take responsibility of the death tolls and sufferings in the terai. And then only the Madheshi feel that their aspirations and feelings have been respected in the government.Infact we don't want someone or somebody to respect us but we want the things that is ours from the very aboriginal stage of ancestors and life. And then only the Madheshis will step for their second phase with their not genuine demand but their rights from their birth.Otherwise the present pahade government has realized that we are ready for next revolution in the history of the world.Madheshis do not feel free unless they form a different state within the country with self-rule,self-determination,self-image and self-esteem.So Madhesh and Madheshis! You don't have to do anything.You have already shown what you can do and what you deserve. Its Pahade government that takes response and we are going to judge them on the basis of how well they understand the supression they have been making to we innocent Madheshis and taking advantage of our innocence.We will judge how well they have understand our Power, integrity and our rights.We will also judge them how loyal have they become this time of history towards Madheshis.The time will definately show that truth always wins.If that does not happen ,we Madheshis will prove that truth always wins.
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मैले कुरो न बुझेको चाँही, मधिसे मित्रहरु को त्यत्रो खाइलाग्दो माग हुँदा हुँदै पहिलो र अन्तिम माग चाँही गृह मन्त्री कृष्ण सिटौला को राजीनामा रे ? के सोझा सिधा मधिसेलाई लाठी भाला बोकाएको गृह मन्त्रीको राजीनामा माग्न लाई हो ? कृष्ण सिटौला लाई तिमीहरु मधिसेले नै भोट दिएर जिताएका होइनौ ? झापा के पहाड मा पर्छ ? के त्यहाँ सद्भावना पार्टिका कुनै मधिसे उम्मेदबार थिएन ? यस्ता स्तरहीन र तुच्छ कुरा गर्छौ र मधिसेलाई अरु ले हेप्छन । तिमीहरुका जायज माग पनि नाजयज भएर जान्छ । आफु असफल भएको झोंक अरु मा थोप्ने मुर्ख्याईं मात्र हो त्यो आन्दोलन । अलिकति भएको सहानुभूती पनि गयो आज देखि । अर्को कुरा, लोक सेवा आयोग मा लिइने कुनै पनि प्राबिधिक परिक्षा र तह बढुवा को परिक्षामा नेपाली मा लेख्नु पर्छ भन्ने छैन । न नेपाली छुट्टै पेपर हुन्छ । अनि मधिसे पास् न भएको बाहुन ले गर्दा भन्ने मधिसे मित्र ? बिदेशिले नेपाली सिक्छन्, सिक्नु हुने, नेपाली भएर नेपाली सिक्न के ले रोक्यो ? अलिकति आत्म बिदेशी मिसावट भएर हो कि ? म पनि नेपाली भाषी होइन, मैले नि सिकेको हुं स्कूल मा । हिन्दी तराई को भाषा कहिलेइ थिएन र होइन पनि । हिन्दी चहि मज्जाले सिक्ने, नेपाली चहि नाइ? मेरो मातृ भाषा त अझ नेपाली संग् ठ्याम्मै मेल खादै न। भोजपुरि, अबधि , मैथलि र हिन्दि त धेर् थोर् नेपाली सित् मिल्दछ। प्रतिशतमा भाग चाहियो रे अझ? ज्ञानेका कठपुतलीहरु हो, ज्ञाने ले राज गर्दा एक् शब्द बोल्यौ? शाह् राणा हरु हाम्रो देशमा कति प्रतिशत् छन्। अझ कति जना छन् भनेर कहिलेइ सोध्यौ ? त्यो तानाशआह शाहय भयो तिमीहरुलाई ? चुनाव जित र शासन गर । लोकतन्त्रमा बिश्वाश भएको भए । तराईबाट पहाडेको जमानत जब्त गराइ देउ, अनि मान्छु मधिसे को ताकत ? जातीको नाम मा देश टुक्र्याउने बिदेशी चाल अनि ज्ञानेको माल मा रमाउने जन्तुहरु हो, यस्तै रह्यो भने तिमीहरु को चाल्, न हाँसक्ओ चाल न कुखुराको चाल हुने छ ।
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tyo chor sitaula lai rajina ma dina k ko apthero.nobody is greater than country . Desh ra janata lai kati marka pari sakyo. Yadi tyasle rajina ma diera madhise table ma aauchan bahne k ko dhilai. madhise ko ta buddhi chaina, yo sarkar le ni kati manche marna khojya ho sitaula lai rajina ma dina nalagaera.
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नेपेब्रो, कुरो तेसो पो। कि तपाईकै छद्म नाम हो कि भन्ठानेको। त्यो तपाईको साँढुभाई कि को हो? त्यो त ज्याद्रो पो छ त हौ। राहुलब्रो, फोरमको बारेको कुरो चाहि सहि हो। तिनिहरु किन फेरि आन्दोलन भन्दै हिड्याछन, मान्छे फेरि मर्छन। कार्यकर्ता मरेर नेतालाई त फाइदै हुन्छ, तर त्यो राम्रो राजनीति हैन। अब चुनाबाँ गएर जितेर सरकार बनाएर सिटौलालाई पाता कसेर हनुमानढोकाँ ल्याएर केरकार गरे भैगो, म नि सहमत छु। खाली बलजफ्ति रुवाबासी गर्न हुन्न। भोलि चितुनाँ गैडा मरे, बनमन्त्रीले राजिनामा दिनै पर्छ भन्लान, हुम्लाँ मान्छे भोकाए, स्वास्थ्यमन्त्रीले राजिनामा दिनपर्छ भन्लान। यसरी त सरकार चल्दैन गाँठे। भाषाको समस्या तपाईलाई नपरेको तपाई स्मार्ट भएर हो ब्रदर। स्मार्ट मधेसीले मात्रै चान्स पाउने, अलिअलि स्मार्टले नपाउने भैराख्याछ अहिले, तेसैले 'अन्डर रिप्रीजेन्टेसन'को कुरो आइराख्या हो। ठिकै छ, हामी अङ्रेजीमा जाँच दिन्छम भने नि राम्रै हो। तेसै गरम। नेपाली सिक्न भन्दा अँग्रेजी सिक्न सजिलो छैन। अनि भोलि फेरि कैलाली , रोल्पा तिर मधेसीलाई सिडियो बनाएर पठाउदा सोमले नेपाली नजानेर त भएन नि। त्यसैले नेपाली सिक्न चाहिँ पर्छ, निजामति कर्मचारीले जस्तो लाग्छ। नेपे बिरादरले भन्या जस्तै माग्नै परेपछि थला परेर बेडाँ ढलिरा'को बुढो गिर्जाकै राजिनामा माग्या भए हुन्थ्यो। हैन भने भोलि झापा बाट जमानत जफत गराइदिएर लाजमर्नु पारेनि भैगो। मलाई त यो मधेसी नेताहरु आफ्नो मधेसाँ पपुलर छ जस्तो लाग्दैन। अब हाम्रो देशाँ एउटा युनिअनिस्ट पार्टी चाहियो, सबै देश एउटै हो, सबैलाई आआफ्नो धर्म, रितिरिवाज मान्न सबै स्वतन्त्रता, तर सबै हामी पहिला नेपाली अनि बल्ल बाहुन, छेत्री, नेवार, मधेसि, सेक्सि, ह्यान्डसम, अपराधी, बाँगे, सिधा, लामघारे, बामपुड्के आदि। हाम्रो देशाँ यो जनजाति, मधेसीले भन्दा तेस्तो पार्टीले जित्छ। इथ्निक (जातिय) र लिङ्गुइस्टिक (भाषिय) एक रुप भएको देश हुदैमा झगडा नहुने र राम्रो हुनेभए संसारको सबभन्दा जातिय र भाषिय देश नर्थ कोरिया हो (९९% कोरियन), त्यसको बिजोग देखिएकै छ। प्रजातन्त्र र खुलापनले मात्र देश अघि बढाउँछ, यो संकीर्ण सोचाइले हैन। पढेका, टाठाबाठालाई अघि बढाऔँ, अरु कुरो देखा जायेगा। जय शंभो, भोले बाब, माथी लेख्दा मैले कुनै गल्ती गरेको भए माफ पाउँ, म अजान, अज्ञानि छु प्रभु:) ('माई टु सेन्ट्स'को नेपाली उल्था)।
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