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jeevan30
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Posted on 04-02-06 12:45
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Look at this link http://krishnasenonline.org/
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 4:30
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u r fogetting the root cause of insurgency. insurgency is not merely ten years old u know. it goes back decades. it is a result of unjustice, inequality. it is a conflict between the classes, teh oppressors adn the oppressed. we cannot solve the problem of insurgency wihtout adresing these issues. insurgency stems out of deeprooted unsatisfaction and resentment k.
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Mr. Lonely
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Posted on 04-02-06 4:38
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ha ha ha..lfc again in action....get away guys!!! save yourself or get killed....lol
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NewGurLOntheBlock
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Posted on 04-02-06 4:44
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 4:51
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i can be very fun mr. lonely........
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Mr. Lonely
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Posted on 04-02-06 4:57
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sure you can be...don't take everything so literally, isn't that what u used to say?
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 4:59
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:01
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Maoist are brutal, they not only kill but they are so gruesome. Most of the maoist who are carrying guns even dont know what they are fighting for. All they know is that the people are scared of them and they get free food , money and whatever. Most of them are uneducated.plenty of them are minors. how can they possibly rule the country. these maoist who are habituated in living a life by collecting money by extortion and killing. Will they change if maoist come to the governtment. It will be almost impossible to give all of them who are carrying guns a job. And what job can they do. Most of them are uneducated.As much as i like to be optimistic, i see no solution to this problem in near future.
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:06
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lfc123, > insurgency is not merely ten years old u know. it goes back decades. I dont know where you get your information to form your argument. Why dont you educate me please! I am sure your informaiton about the insurgency will be very helpful to the nepali maobadis, they will be glad to know their own history which they think is only a decade old. So go on and educate us all, please!
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8-)
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:13
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> Ha ha ha..lfc again in action....get away guys!!! save yourself or get killed....lol वो नयना क्या नयना जिस्के चल्ने से कोइ घायल ना हो , वो तर्क क्या तर्क जिसे कोइ सुने पर कुछ कहने का मन ना हो
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:15
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but this is what i feel. maobaids did not wake up one morning 1994 feb. 10 and said , "hey it's a nice day outside. lets start a people's revolution!!". i have not studied the maobadi history, but i know that they are dissatisfied with the economic and social organization. that is why the snatch land from people. previously they wanted to establish a communism; tara ahile they are leaning towards establshing whatever people want to do. they have begun their offical reovlution in 1994, but obviusly this revolution stemmed out of decades' of resentment.
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Nepal ko chora
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:18
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8-) Here is the source about my claim. It shows data upto Nov 2005 and I extrapolated it upto till date to arrive the figure I presented. http://www.inseconline.org/hrvdata/kill_data.php I hope you don't doubt the credibility of the source as INSEC is neither government nor maoist supporter organization.
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8-)
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:22
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>But this is what i feel. There is a difference between feelings that arises without understanding and the feeling that arises with understanding. There are times when you say, you do not support the maobadis and there are times when you "try" to justify insurgency. Isn't this called double standard? It does seem that you contradict yourself to "win" the arguemnt no matter what. Nothing more.
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:26
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i think the insurgency has just causes. i think whatever the maoists claim to be fight for is on fair grounds. what i don't like is waht the maobabids practise and thier strategies of violence and their use of force. i am not contradicting anything. its just hard to come to a conclusion when you are aware of both sides of the issue. i don't have to win anything. i respect waht you feel and i resepct what everybody else feels. i jus thought my opinions would be resepcted as well......
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:30
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Nepal ko chora, Thank you for the source. Of course I doubt the data, we all should. THere is a difference between blindly accepting what is presented and taking the information with reservation before accepting it after confirming with other sources. I am of the latter type.
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:41
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lfc123, > i jus thought my opinions would be resepcted as well..... Of course I respect your opinion but do not agree with your conclusions. On this thread you indicated that you do not support maobadis but now you are saying that you support the "cause" of insurgency, however you put it does not make any difference. If you support the cause of insurgency, you support maobadis, period. If you legitimize the insurgency and sympathize with the maobadis, you support the maobadis, period. It does not take Einstein to figure that out ;-) You denounce the violence but accept the insurgency? Where does the insurgency stand without violence? Where do maobadis stand without violence? Nowhere. Isnt this contradiction?? got to go..
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:50
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why are you making it sooo clear cut.....dont think it out for me. dont' say ' u sympathieze with the maoists, period'. u don't even know me. how can you figure out my politcal beliefs?? as for waht you said, i am still in the process of figuring these problems out. the line between right and wrong is very thin and can be increbily blurry. the more you think politcs, the more you will realize that. i can never competley support or critisize one particualr side because i realize that everything can be looked at from many many different perspectives. and tehre are no standards of figuring out which perspective is right and which one is wrong... i said the causes that maoists are fighting for is fair i.e. better ecnomic and soical organization. but hey, i would support a dictatorial king if he would come up wiht a better economical or social orgnaization for my country. i dont need the maoists......am i making this clear enough?
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Patriot
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:51
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wtf....chumps going abt defendin who's d more malicious n shld shoulder greater responsibilities for d 13 000 deaths caused in the civil war till date. Anyone defendin either d Moaist or the Army.. r blatently mopic as the have difficulty absorbing the true significance of those deaths.... one can't assume any faction 2 be more innocent than the other.....coz ..the fact is both of the Moaist and the Army have committed carnage and are equally accountable to crimes against the plp......figures of deaths by either side can substantiate their actions.....u fags....is 1 person's death any less valuable dan 10 person's lives ??? stop bitchin abt who u support n who u don't.....fags...y dun u walk talk.... involve usrelf in the country's struggles n contribute 2 the development of the nation....rather dan demonstrate ur intelligence n opinions frm ur comfy place where eva it may be.... personally, d demonstrators r also a shame....destroying public infrastructure n wat not..these r d plp lookin 4 trouble..wif no real goals in life....they comin wif d intent of doin some damage....can't they demonstrate preacefully ??? bloody goons of d politicans ... dirty fags...all ya do is ...speak out ur opinion....deed not wrds....is d need of d hour !!! so stop ur anti-king......anti-Moaist...publicity...d fact is d politicans have been failing the nation 4 decades ....n they were d ones who breed d Moaist n r d architect of d civil unrest in d country.... P.S...my apologies 2 those whom i might have unknowing offended ...m sure some wldn't feel so as wat i wrote doesn;t imply 2 them....4 d rest...shut up ...dolts...those of u who feel strongly against wat i wrote r....in most likelyhood r d exact fags...i intended this post 4.
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 5:52
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plus, u can still fight a revolution without violence...south africa is one example at teh top of my head.
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lfc123
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Posted on 04-02-06 6:01
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patriot, i dont' have the capacity to lead nepal. but politicians, kings and maostis ...no matter what, are still the leaders of my country. they are the ones able to plunge us out of this mess. as the citizens of nepal, we all have teh right to critisize and applaud our leaders. and participate in a political discussion. why is that bothering u so much? why don't u tell us waht we should do in nepal? i might not be in the streets revolting aginast the king, i might not be in teh jungle fighting a revolution......u know why, because i don't have that capacity. i am just an average citizen. i cannot lead my country. all i can do is hope, pray, and express my opinions....
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KnightCrawler
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Posted on 04-02-06 6:34
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Well said lfc123..... I sure share the same sentiments...Wish those who think they can lead the nation would do a better job....Nepalese politicians do not have any accountability to their citizens...They do it for themselves...for their future..
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