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Posted on 03-06-06 9:52
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This article by Baburam Bhattarai is very touching. - http://www.kantipuronline.com/Nepal/aanubhuti.php शहीद सप्ताहमा आमाको निधनको खबर 'बाबु ! मेरोभन्दा पहिले तिम्रो मृत्युको खबर सुन्नु नपरोस् र तिमीले लिएको बाटो सफल होस् ! यत्ति मेरो इच्छा छ' आमा भन्नुहुन्थ्यो डा बाबुराम भट्टराई फागुन १४ देखि २१ ग्ातेसम्म हामी नेपाली क्रान्तिका महान् शहीदहरूको सम्झनामा बर्सेनि शहीद सप्ताह मनाउने गर्दछौँ । त्यसैले यो अवधि हामी क्रान्तिकारीहरूका निम्ति वैचारकि मात्र नभएर भावनात्मक महत्त्वको पनि रहने गर्दछ । जनयुद्धका प्रथम शहीद दिलबहादुर रम्तेलदेखि केही महिनाअघि मात्र शहीद हुनुभएका किमबहादुर थापा -कमरेड सुनील) र अहिले दिनहुँजसो विशेषतः लुम्बिनी अञ्चलका भिडन्तहरूमा शहीद हुने योद्धाहरूको स्मृतिमा हामी भावविभोर हुने गर्दछौँ । ती शहीदका परविारहरूको पीडा र त्यसभन्दा पनि बढी बेपत्ता पारएिका परविारहरू र घाइते तथा अपाङ्ग हुनेहरूको पीडा सम्झेर हामी भावनात्मक रूपले तरङ्गित हुने गर्दछौँ । त्यो बृहत् स्मृति र भावनात्मक तरङ्गको सागरमा यसपटक मलाई व्यक्तिगत रूपमा जन्म दिने आमाको निधनको दुःखद समाचारले विशेष तरङ्गित बनाएको छ । गत फागुन १६ गते रातीका अन्तिम पलहरूमा आमा धर्मकुमारी भट्टराईको निधन भएको रहेछ । मैलेचाहिँ १७ गते दिउँसो १२ बजेतिर मात्रै अध्यक्ष कमरेड प्रचण्डबाट त्यसको जानकारी पाएँ । खबर पहिले पार्टीको च्यानलबाट नै हेडक्वार्टरमा आएको रहेछ । पछि केही पत्रकार मित्रहरूबाट पनि थाहा लाग्यो । मलाई व्यक्तिगत रूपमा गम्भीर चोट पुग्नु स्वाभाविक हुन्थ्यो नै । किनभने, म अझै बूढो हुन लागे पनि ८० वषर्ीय आमाले मलाई सधैँ बालकै ठान्नुहुन्थ्यो र मेरा बारेमा स-साना कुरामा असाध्यै चिन्तित हुनुहुन्थ्यो । जहिले पनि, 'बाबु ! मेरोभन्दा पहिले तिम्रो मृत्युको खबर सुन्नु नपरोस् र तिमीले लिएको बाटो सफल होस् ! यत्ति मेरो इच्छा छ' भन्नुहुन्थ्यो । फेर िमेरो मनोविज्ञान कस् तो अनौठो छ भने केही ठूलो घटना हुनुपूर्व अकस्मात् मन-मस्तिष्कमा त्यसको पूर्वाभासजस्तो अन्तःप्रज्ञा प्राप्त हुने गर्दछ । त्यस दिन बिहान पनि आमा भेट भएमा के भन्नुहोला र के जवाफ दिउँला भन्ने पूर्वकल्पना गर्दै थिएँ र मनमनै भन्दै थिएँ, "आमा, अब कमसेकम पाँच वर्ष बाँचिदिनुहोला ।" तर, आमा गइसक्नुभएको रहेछ । त्यसैले खबर सुन्नेबित्तिकै बुबाको झन् बढी चिन्ता लाग्यो र अनेक कोसिस गरेर उहाँलाई फोन गरेँ । आफ्नो मन बाँधेर ७६ वषर्ीय बुबालाई सान्त्वना दिने मेरो प्रयत्न थियो । तर, उल्टो भइदियो । 'केही मिनेट पहिलेसम्म पनि एउटै अन्तिम इच्छा बाबुरामलाई भेट्न पाइनँ भन्दै थिइन्' भन्ने बुबाको भनाइले म पूरै ध्वस्त भएँ । मेरो बोली नै बन्द भयो । बल्लतल्ल सम्हालिने कोसिस गरेँ । त्यसो त मेरो ज्योतिषले जुराएको न्वारानको नाउँ मुक्तिको सट्टा बाबुराम राखिनुका पछाडि पनि त्यही आमाको ममता कारण थियो भन्ने मैले सुनेको थिएँ । जेहोस्, जीवनभर आमासँग मेरो विशेष सम्बन्ध रह्यो । आमाले अन्तिम घडीसम्म त्यो कायम राख्नुभयो । मैलेचाहिँ सकेँ कि सकिनँ, भविष्यले मात्र बताउला ।
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Posted on 03-06-06 7:35
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I think most of the replies against baburam are not the word happiness. Also it is not intended to say that the death of his mother has no value. But the thing is if he feels so much pain for his mother death ( who passed away due to old age), what about the people who missed their relatives or killed by maoist without any reason ( or maoist own reason). के उ सर्बस्र्ष्ठ र अरु भेडा बाख्रा ? एक आमा मर्दा यति धेरै पिडा हुन्छ भने १५००० निहथ्था जनता बिनाकारण किन मारिए ? के अरु जनताको मुल्य छैन ?
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-06-06 7:54
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baburam is new to grieving. He needs to grieve more to understand the pain of the grieving nation.
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Posted on 03-06-06 8:30
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I read most of the people’s view in this thread. The comments are natural and understandable however the way people have expressed their feelings toward Baburam’s article is improper. If you have watched the movie clip, which was taken in Rolpa or Rukum, where most of the leaders had cried. At this point you guys can say those tears were forged. If you have ever visited that rural area where people have suffered terribly from severe exploitation from feudal from unknown period of time, you will understand why maoist have struggled and they are at this point. If you feel their grief first hand you will understand the importance of killing feudal or equivalents. It does not mean that I am in favor of killing. I agree them if they remove killing of people from their statue. Of course, the life of every one is equally important. We can not say that their count the values of life of other people. I think they better count the life of people the corrupted government or these people who are barking in sajha against Bhattarai and his ideology. Have you ever felt the grief of poor people?? Have you ever tried to collect first hand data about the maoist movement? I have read many fake stories about their killing. I have directly seen the incident and the stories. The facts were not as written in the papers. I am still against those killings. Those viruses of the societies are to be killed for sure but not the way how maoists are following. There could be other alternatives like Bhata program I had heard in eastern part of Nepal. I just wanted to warn the people that no one is supposed to negate one's ideology without knowing the reality. And also should have a correct way on how to express condolences to other people. By the Baburam does not need your sympathy as he has written in his article that he lives for all mothers.
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Posted on 03-06-06 9:28
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Castro's words in Nepali translation or is it a retrospection from an staunch communist ideologist, no idea in either. Soft corner of ruthless fighter, remembered the glimpse of the famed Manakamana picture. Tribute to the great soul and may it rest in peace, amidst all this khucchya and disregard for dead. Let not any next mother leave in such state of pain, and work at that at the ernest that will be the best tribute to your mother, Mukkti dai.
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-06-06 9:36
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Jeevan30, >> I just wanted to warn the people Who the heck are you to warn others? I know it is the maobadi way with dealing with disagreements. >> no one is supposed to negate one's ideology without knowing the reality. Ideology and reality are two different things, yes for the maobadis and its sympathizers. >> Baburam does not need your sympathy.. Who the heck are you to speak for that murderer?? >>he has written in his article that he lives for all mothers Say that to the people who have lost the loved ones and their sons and daughters. If the present cannot bring justice to people like Baburam, history will. -Shiv
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-06-06 9:39
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No it is not disregard to the departed soul but it is the sympathy and respect to the people who have lost the loved ones and for the ones that are going to die in this violent campaign.
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Posted on 03-06-06 10:10
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so this obituary is suppose to expose the soft side of these barbaric criminals?? or did this baburam retard PHD finally realized the pain of losing someone so near and dear to you?? i highly doubt these terrorists have any remorse for human life, be it of an infant or their own 85 yrs old mother. so this obituary is nothing but a LAME PR move by these devils and as someone pointed out above....for all we care they can go burn in hell. and there won't be any obituaries after their death....STRAIGHT UP! DAMN RIGHT!
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jeevan30
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Posted on 03-06-06 10:25
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I am neither maobadi nor strong supporter of maobadi. I am always against their killings despite the fact that they do not kill innocent people. Killing army or police in war is the different case. I do belive that maoists are revolutionarists and I understand the consiquences of revolution. Time will show who will be hung infront of the people by the people. Debating in sajha is worthless. I want to ask you guys who is barbaric criminal? Gayenendra or Prachanda or Baburam?
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Posted on 03-06-06 11:38
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i agree with jeevan30. what maoist is all-about can only be understood when we travel to remote places of nepal. majority of nepalese there lives without basic needs like education, safe drinking water and so on. and believe me they have been neglected from time immortal, be that be during rana-rule, panchayat saasan or even 12-yrs of multiparty democracy. people who were born there and got basic education there are not capable of competing with folks who shout in this sajha forum, including me. They represent Nepal. If we see statistics of economy then it is derived from the data taken from those people. dalits and madhesi were treated as second class humans or even non-nepalis, and still is, and in the same country there are so-called city-folks who spend more than thousand rupees in just lunch, 5-6 thousand for pair of trouser and skirts ( check the recent NEPAL mag from ekantipur). where that money comes from? ok their parents were not corrupt governmental officer. But if they were businessmen then they must have had high profit margin which is also a form of corruption against consumers. you people in sajha do not represent nepal. if you would then looking at you guys, nobody from asian development bank or so would dare to call nepal a poorest country in south asia. i respect baburam for his high determination, and when i meet him i'll shake his hand. I am damn sure that he dont want to me do "dhanustankar" for him just like gyansingh does inherting the characters from great forefather who chopped off soldiers' head for saluting him without wearing boots. peace out.
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Posted on 03-06-06 11:57
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Maoists are terrorsits. Period. Thats it. There is no justificcation for innocent life lost. Who the hell is maoists to decide whether someone should live or die without any free trial? Have any of u ever heard of maos killing corrupt polticans and royals? WTF? Targeting Some low level army men and cops and Some low rank poltical workers, they think they will bring revolution. Extortion, Bombing of public places, destruction of public properties. How can anybody justify that? Have u all forgot bombings of public place in Pokhara? Ask any businessmen in Nepal. Everybody is paying extortion. Maoists are pigs. "A true revolution is guided by feeling of love" CHE peace
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:05
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>> you people in sajha do not represent nepal. I presume you are from Mars and the only" THE" representative for all of the people of Nepal. >> i respect baburam for his high determination -Ofcourse you do and agree for what ever he says or does without question. >> I am damn sure that he dont want to me do "dhanustankar" -I am sure of it also but do not dare to disagree with him, if you do that will be the last day of your life. >>there are so-called city-folks who spend more than thousand rupees in just lunch, 5-6 thousand for pair of trouser and skirts -So you are saying that people who can "buy" such stuff should be eliminated(??) like the maobadi style?? >>if you would then looking at you guys, nobody from asian development bank or so would dare to call nepal a poorest country in south asia. -oh really?? and you would predict Nepal otherwise? And your prediction is??
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:11
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>>fact that they do not kill innocent people You are so wrong.!! You need to understand the communist style of judgment in which every accusation ends up in conviction and conviction ends in death. If you have not visited Nepal and do not know the details of maobadi justice, you should watch "killing fields". This movie shows maobadi style of justice.
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:18
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Yaha sathiharu Desko situation bujhe jasto lagena. Ali news padhera ani chippeko dimag le j payo tehi boldai garejasto lagyo. Nepal shiv jasta dekhi wretch jasta ani highfly dekhi ma samma ani Baburam dekhi prachanda sabile represent garchhan. tesaile ta bibidhata chha. Baicharik bibidhata. I respect ideological contradisction and logical analysis. But It look like, peoples here are talking from their mudhe bal. Dherai din bhako chhaina Mudhebal le kura garne harule Maobadi darbar bata sanchalit bhayeka bhanna chhodeko. yesto mudhe balle kura garne harusanga sakinna ra sambhav pani hunna. Malile ta chhadidiye sajha shiv mandali lai.
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:23
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I can't fantasize real life with filmier story. I believe in reality and first hand statistics .
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:30
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>>Yaha sathiharu Desko situation bujhe jasto lagena. हजुर ले चै सबै बुझ्नु भा को छ जस्तो छ , भुत भविश्य तथा बर्तमान । >> Malile ta chhadidiye sajha shiv mandali lai. हस त तारेमाम्, लाल सलाम पनि भनु कि ?
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:32
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>> I believe in reality and first hand statistics Why dont you talk about it then??
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:36
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>> I can't fantasize real life with filmier story. No its not fantasy. Killing fields is based on true story. Here is the link if you want to learn about it - http://www.filmsite.org/kill.html
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:37
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:39
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May Late Bhattarai's departed soul rest in peace in heaven. Dr. Baburam Bhattarai is my fellow gorkha native. I am with him for whatever he has done. Because I know maoist are revolutionaries not terrorists. Those people who are against him and his views, u mofokers are the real terrorists of nepal.
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SHIV
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Posted on 03-07-06 12:49
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>> Dr. Baburam Bhattarai is my fellow gorkha native. Congratulations! You can use your influence for everything, almost anything and I am sure you have used it many times. >>u mofokers are the real terrorists of nepal And..that's your logic and that's all you have to say. This is maobadi style:" If you do not agree with me you are THE TERRORIST but its ok if we kill, extort, kidnap, threaten or what ever we do and if you do not agree you will be executed"
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