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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 6:27
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I saw a thread somewhere where one Paramendra is encouraging people to donate $100 for some kind of movement involving terrorists. Perhaps all of part of that money will be funneled towards buying more bullets and guns for the terrosists so that more and more villagers can be intimidated and killed. It will also help them to loot even more food from innocent villagers by threat. I think the person is Paramendra Bhagat as far as I have understood. Correct me if I am wrong here. Well done Mr. Bhagat. All peace loving Nepalese will remember this for a long time to come.
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resaamfiriri
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Posted on 12-06-05 12:52
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Thank u highfly for your post.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-06-05 4:24
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I believe Bhoonte's defination of "terrorist" is more consistant with that of the Americans. Unfortunately "terrorist" as defined by the Americans is accepted only by the Americans themselves and some of their closest allies not the entire world. Borrowing the defination of "terrorists" from the Americans, some of the dictators around the world have used it in a higly skillfull manner to defend themselves from their political opponents in their homelands. Mussaraff used it in Pakistan so did Gynendra in Nepal. Many repressive governments around the world have used it since post-9/11 to justify their repressive acts.
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SHIV
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Posted on 12-06-05 4:48
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Are you saying that maobadis are not terrorists? To keep the matter simple I have pasted the definition of Terrorist from dictionary.com below terrorist adj : characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity"; "terrorist state" n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities. (communism is their religion, their belief) -Shiv
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-06-05 5:36
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SHIV How can Communism be a religion (or even co-exist side by side) ? What I know from history of Communists through out the world is thatCommunists hated religion and made attemps in every possible ways to exterminate religion wherever Communism took hold. Former Soviet Union was an example from the past. Communists tried relentlessly to get rid of Pope John Paul and he became a voice against Communism all his life when Soviets defeated Germans (at the end of World War 2) and brought Communism to the EAST BLOCK countries like Poland, Hungary etc. Communist in China tried to in every possible ways to get rid of any influence of religion and the crack down on this religious group called Falang Gong is a fresh example. Some Maoists in Nepal tried to get rid of Pandits from villages. So in essence, if I were to consider "your defination" above, the given defination itself will work against your characterization of "terrorist" because the Maoists in Nepal never used religion as a cover to achieve their goals. Come up with more coherent defination ..PAL.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-06-05 6:22
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I 'll rather address the question of if they have used violence or not because the term "terrorist" seems rather tricky to me. We all know that the Maoist have used violence to persue their political goals. We also have to keep into account that Maoist also has a military organization aside from a political organization. Like any other military around the world, it will try to impose the goals set by its political masters by use of force (or violence) if needed. To impose the will (or the goals) set by its political masters is the ultimate goal of any military around the world wether it be US Military or Indian Military or Chinese Military or Nepali Military or Nepali Maoist Military. There is no question about if the Maoists as a military organization ever used force or violence to impose their will or achieve goals. It isnt hard to imazine that evey military organization in every other country will have a history of use violence. RNA is not an exception nor is Maoist military.
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III_II_I_II_III
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Posted on 12-06-05 6:56
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khaobaadi, so you mean to say getting ride of pundits, pujaris, pakhes, bhotes, is OK for the sake ideals? Communism is an idea that came out of someone or a group of people because of radical thinking. When did we started justifying killing of human body for the sake of human idea? ideas comes out of human not the other way....PAL
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-06-05 7:23
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3 2 1 2 3 dude, I'm not here to advocate Communism. I'm mentioning what the conflict between the Communism and religion in various countries throughout the last 100 years. dude. it isnt a rocket science and it wont take a lot to see that every human killed other human for the sake of an idea. One's idea came in conflict with the idea of other's and ........it's as basic as "not agreeing to" someone else's idea of vandalizing your home or bringing in Nazism one more time ...ok
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SHIV
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Posted on 12-06-05 10:04
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khaobadi, Believing in religion makes one religious, non-belief makes one atheist. However belief or non-belief it is the idea that both vouch for one for the existence of supernatural power other absence of it, both are based on belief. Communists believe in the red book of mao just like a religious person believes in the holy book the person belongs to. Communists have their own belief just like the religious groups. Again I will copy the definition of religion and belief to clarify the matter. Here is the definition of Religion "A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." (communists have their own belief just like the relegious groups) And here is the definition of Belief "The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another" (Both these definitions are taken from dictionary.com) -Shiv
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III_II_I_II_III
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Posted on 12-07-05 1:33
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