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Posted on 11-08-05 7:59
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I think that Hon'ble Ambassador is damn serious, and he'd done good analysis of country (ofcourse, with his own interest in it too). Nepal will collapse without no reconciliation: Moriarty By Prateek Pradhan KATHMANDU, Nov 7 - The Ambassador of the USA to Nepal, James F Moriarty, has warned the king and political parties that if something is not done immediately the whole system will collapse in the country. "The emergency is only increasing, and if the right decisions are not taken quickly, the country will be in very serious trouble," said Moriarty in an exclusive interview to the Post on Monday. Moriarty reiterated that the onus is on the King to reconcile, and reach out to political parties. "The gap between the king and the parties is growing. I still think political parties would respond if the King reached out in good faith. But the King has not done that, and he needs to do it. Frankly, I cannot figure out a safe landing for this country, otherwise," Moriarty said. The US ambassador further said that after February 1st, both the King and political parties have become weaker, and only the Maoists have gained benefit. He said, "I hope, I'm wrong, but the State is very very brittle to me. It feels it could be knocked over very easily." "The government is getting weaker rather than stronger, that means the state is in more and more trouble. They don't have much popular support. I think the King had lots of support for his move in February, because people hoped the country's problems would be resolved. I think the proportion is a lot lower now." "If there's no reconciliation, there are probably several different types of futures, none of which looks good to me. One, is repression, the other is more and more confusion in the street, and yet another is resumed insurgency in the country. These are all unpleasant futures." Trying to clarify his position after he issued a warning to political parties to refrain from collaborating with Maoists, Moriarty said the parties should adhere to their earlier stance that demands Maoists to renounce violence before any sort of reconciliation. "I was reminding them that as of right now the Maoists had not done anything to indicate that they are abandoning violence." Moriarty said that he had to issue the statement after Bamdev Gautam said that he had an agreement with Maoists, and that the Maoists would be shortening every candidate in the municipal elections by six inches (beheading them). When asked for his reaction on Maoists' three-month unilateral ceasefire, which is going to be over soon, Moriarty said that it would be good if the Maoists extended the ceasefire, even though the ceasefire has many problems. "The extortion is probably outgrown in ceasefire, abductions continue, there's still violence, people are still getting killed by the Maoists. However, the ceasefire has resulted in fewer deaths than before, and that's good. Anything that leads to fewer deaths is good." Commenting on Nepal's changing foreign policy, which is tilted more towards a country with totalitarian regime, Moriarty said, "Nothing wrong with Nepal trying to develop friendly relations with other countries. But I don't think that relations with other countries will change the basic dynamic inside Nepal." However, he admitted that a large scale of military support might give a feeling to the government that they could stand the domestic pressure for a while longer, and it might take the urgency of the reconciliation. However, he added, "There is no external option that would change the internal dynamics." He added that the USA, on its part, has talked to various countries that have interest in Nepal. "We've talked to Pakistan in the past and also to China. If the need be, we will express our concern again," he added. Talking about the controversial elections, Moriarty said, "Obviously, elections are the only way you are ultimately going to get back to a functioning democracy. Just as obviously, the parties have legitimate concerns whether elections under the current circumstances can be free and fair. "Here, the combination of the announcement of elections with the announcement of the media ordinance, have been considered by the parties seriously and that is legitimate. The impression given is that there is not going to be a level playing field. So, the parties' concerns are alright. "Again, it's upon the government to reach out to the parties and ask them what they need to do for the parties to take part in the elections. Though the government is not doing that now, I hope the government will do that," he added.
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Posted on 11-08-05 2:29
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what if counting on you Mr. Lonely we are left as lonely as you are... hahaha.. just a joke..
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Posted on 11-08-05 2:31
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Thanks for the clarification Kalanki.Despite terrible market-tactics that most of the so called capitalist nations has used against,I always thought "Che" represented the minority of minorities.The forgotten poors and downtroddens that still live in the deep dense forests of amazon.Despite his astronomical acadamic background and his political beliefs that he later embraced I thought he spoke the human side of all.That as a human being is what matters after all. I don't think he was politically ambitious person who sought global dominance.I only disgaree with his endorsement to violance as a means to deliver justice to who were denied justice.Despite that he was an ordinary man who fought for ordinary crowd. The rebels in Nepal cannot be even compared uno-percent to the man who lived his ideals and died with it not for power but for justice. I will never forget what he said to a Bolivian soldier whose army was backed by the CIA operatives before he was gunned down. "Kill me coward!you are just killing a man" Yes Che your ideals for social justice are eternal.They have not killed you not yet.:)
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Posted on 11-08-05 2:37
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Dear kalanki, I agree with you that we're on the verge of collapse, and we can declare that we're on the verge of collapse. But we're yet to be collapsed. "Collapse" is called when all the houses n' all the families have already destroyed. We're talking about the situation before Muna's death. If Muna has already died, we can't do anything. If it's already collapsed, there'd be no-one (the real nepalis) left to talk about it.
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iZen
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Posted on 11-08-05 3:54
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Dear Gwayjo, If I may I would like to wrap up my Sajha detour with these words with you.Your concerns are valid absolutely.I do feel the same way sometimes.There is a saying in Buddhism."When student is ready,the teacher will appear".Similarly when time will arrive may be you too can make difference.But I wouldn't lose my sleep impatiently waiting for the moment.One can do so much as an individual.However,it is important that we learn from our own experiences.They are the greatest asset of all which paves ways to one's destiny.Like I have said earlier mistakes were made not in 1990 or 1950 or 1961 but in a distant past and were repeated without grasping any lessons from them. It's a terrible disease that needs careful examination and thoughtful prescription.personally I have chosen Buddhism because thats what it teaches.Patience is virtue.Careful observation and harmonious living.It looks simple and complex both at the same time.But it's worth it for me it has been. But it certainly teaches about examining our own life instead of craving for and escaping from everyday reality.Our society has failed because we crave for something that is non-existant.We look for happiness out side of us.When it's all within us.Isn't the whole universe within you.Think about it?It is there in you.You simply have to find the right ways to explore and if you do that you have mastered youself.Thats the greatest conquest of all.And one day when you have conquered your own things will fall on right place for you.I do have revolutionary fervor in me but what can I do nothing.So I try to learn from my own mistakes and experience life as much as I can.Well,I hope you all the best.Isn't life beautiful despite all that.Think about it.It is.
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Posted on 11-08-05 5:57
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iZen, read most of your posts on this thread and I agree to most of what you say but not all. I?d like to put forth the question to you? What would you do if it was you or your close one suffering directly from the turmoil in the country (don?t take it personally though as I do not know you and vice versa. If you think it?s inappropriate of me to ask you this then refrain from answering, liked your writings and wanted to know your views on this). For once get out of the comforts of your home and network of connections with which you have access to the world in your finger tips. Picture yourself in the remote area of Nepal or if you will in one of those hot pockets of Maoist activity. You want a normal life, all you want is two square meals a day.. Do you get it? I don?t think so. If not the Maoists then the Army knocks your door for information; failure to provide that leads to unwanted circumstances. What would you do? Where I am leading is.. your posts esp. the last one seems rather COLD. Based on what you say I can draw an analogy that I would be better of living my life and enjoying every bit of it when Hurricane, Tsunami or Earthquake hits and people are dying. I can argue that these are the result of past mistakes as well. Global warming led to increased hurricanes. Tsunami that rocked the Indian subcontinent last year was a mistake of non disclosure. You can compare the natural catastrophe with the man made catastrophe? in both cases people are in need of HELP. What I would like to say is your present is the result of your past which you have no control over but your present shapes your future, which you can very well control. So If every one says I cannot do anything then who will it be that will be doing something? Your thoughts???
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gwajyo
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Posted on 11-08-05 8:44
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I agree with Izen again. We should neither cry for the past nor crave for the future. That means we should live in the present. According to buddhist teachings, he emphasized more on words like "Pragya, Maitri, ...". He has also mentioned about the right way of living, eating, acting and so on. I want to live in present; but i'm also concerned whether this is the correct way of living (by being blind to injustice). Can I meditate or should I meditate enjoying with myself when a girl is being raped in front of me? I don't think that buddha will be happy to see me meditating in this way. But I don't mean to be rebel, and have some reaction (with preconditionings; bias). I want to know what I can do and what the truth is.
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Posted on 11-09-05 6:38
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a report... http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0511/feature3/multimedia.html
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iZen
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Posted on 11-09-05 6:57
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Dear DT, I was being pragmatic rather than an idealist at my views there.Suffering exists everywhere in the globe only the degree of suffering varies from the one who is living a luxurious life compare to who lives in constant threat and fear in remote villages.It must have sounded skeptical on my part with the statements that I put forward above but what I really meant was our own ghosts that we fear more than external fears that really exist.We have arrived at this point in our history because we have allowed fear to dominate our psyche which initially planted in our ignorance through out the history. Remember even during times of Buddha there were rebels and bandits who would do evils to ordinary beings and for seekers like Buddha don't you think they would have abused his solace in solitude.But he feared his mara most that was rooted deep in his own soul rather than those looters.He discovered enlightenment was impossible before you conquer your own mara rather than the evil that we think exists externally.It is time both the rebels and RNA's realize this harsh reality of our own evil selves before hurting each other. And for the ones who are caught in between this reckless scenario I wish them they realize that it's fear itself that we have to fear the most.Peaceful co-existance is only possible in that stage.Otherwise we are simply living in constant fear among brothers and sisters,neighbors and villagers.There is no universal law that labels us rebels or rebel fighter.Yes there has been mistakes in the past.Proper justice was not delivered to the ones who deserved.But there are ways to fight against past mistakes simply surrendering to guns and violance will not guarantee you justified future.And,sadly even the ordinary maoists who are fighting the battle do not realize this is Prachanda's hollow ambition and Baburam"Ted Kazyiski kind brilliant mind"'s ego into play nothing unless they are operated by underground Indian intelligence agency that loves to see see an unstable Nepal rather than a peaceful one. contd...
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Posted on 11-09-05 7:27
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Buddha was a great human being and for ordinary people like me to accomplish and achieve what he did is questionable. The Paradigm shift you talk about requires work and the challenge my friend is lack of a leader. A person to show them the way. Not everyone can be leaders.. we need some altruistic ones. The scenario izen, you talk about looks good in theory, the reality my friend is different. You have to survive and currently Darwin?s theory of survival of the fittest is apt for people there unless some external factor comes into effect and changes the scenario.. I wish it was so easy for people to people to over the fear itself. Not only Nepal, but also the world would be a different and a much better place to live in.
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iZen
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Posted on 11-09-05 7:36
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"For once get out of the comforts of your home and network of connections with which you have access to the world in your finger tips." There is a difference between living in luxury that is widespread in advanced societies compare to third world where we come from.If I may I'd like to share my views on that as well.The suffering that can be derived from one's attachment to material pleasure can be more devastating than the suffering you experience in no-luxury at all experience. I have tried my best to detach with the superficial feelings of bliss that materials can offer.You are right we can easily be blinded by those feelings.There is enough for the human need mother earth has to offer but there is never for our greed which is nurtured from our ignorant minds.I am glad you have mentioned about global warming.The industrail advancement of western world is responsible for all the natural disasters we have faced and are going to face more often in the future.Human have treated ruthlessly to mother earth and she has resulted in the name of ktrina,rita and wilma.The greed of corporate culture to which naive young minds can easily fall prey is something that shouldn't be ignored either. conted..
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Posted on 11-09-05 7:54
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Siddhartha Gautama wasn't a great human being.He was as ordinary as us.He learned from trial and error.He learned through tough self-discipline and renunciation.He learned through attachment.Buddha has said we humans are too capable of being Buddhas.There are examples of orinary individuals who have tried to live their life like buddha and experienced enlightenment. There is nothing within human reach.The potential of this flesh and blood may be limited but potentials of our human spirit is vast.Its eternal.There were many Buddhas who were born and died before and after Siddhartha's presence on earth.We don't know them doesn't mean they didn't exist. The beauty of life is we as humans are provided the same conditions for all.it's our choice whether or not we want to bother ourselves in trying to explore that sacred side of our soul instead of living a mundane life. You have mentioned theory looks good.I have never discovered the simplest as that of respecting human that is much easier to implement.I think political theories like that of Marx and economic theories of Adams Smith are hard to live.But the the theory of respect and love of human dignity is much easier to follow.The big eat small concept or darwin's survival of the fittest is the result of Wetern world's ego for their dominance and recently resulting in America's strike on a sovreign land of weaker nations for their love of consumerism.
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Posted on 11-09-05 8:56
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Thanx gaalab for good slide show link.
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Posted on 11-09-05 10:11
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Lack of evidence does not prove that some things do not exist but neither does it prove that it does exist. I agree the part ?we don?t know them doesn?t mean they don?t exist.? However, you need a concrete evidence to show that it is true. As far as Buddha being an ordinary human being, he may have been before his enlightment but we are the in 21st century today. How many people in today?s world do you know can be like him? Start from the ones real close to you. I can safely say that times have changed. Let?s not divulge into theories of Marx or Adam Smith cause I think it?s kinda outta whack in this.
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Posted on 11-09-05 10:51
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DT, Thanks for your time reading my post.I surely didn't mean to elaborate the conversation.We are always learning through our mistakes.No human is perfect but we unconsciously crave for that perfection but I know we are always evolving.Unlike in my past I have started to examine and re-examine my thoughts and see where they arise from.I try not to let them escape my mind before I dissect them and pay close attention to them and it is fun and a daunting task at the same time.Trust me its a wonderful feeling end of the day. You have said times have changed.Time only changes with our approvals.I hold one principle close to my heart. "In my universe nothing goes wrong".Trust me nothing will go wrong if we hold that optimism.Keep it rolling bro. I am certainly learning from you.:)
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Posted on 11-09-05 11:16
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hey! the conversation could go on... well would be better with some beer and chicken wings :) really your meticulous choice of words!
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Posted on 11-09-05 11:16
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oops missed out like in between
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Posted on 11-09-05 11:19
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thats common knowledge dear..now lets come up with ways how to rectify the ERRORS.. I for example am thinking to going back to the country and make it point to change all that... how to do it...GOD knows..and GOD knows how much help I need from all of you.. So help me lord to direct me and my mission to change Nepal for good A final examination for me.
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Posted on 11-09-05 11:21
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oh you are funny...I still have the hang over from day before lastnight...I guess I bored you with my philosophy:)damn me:)
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Posted on 11-09-05 11:23
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Hi hushpuppy, Ke ho bhaneko dekhera pani nadekhe jasto garni? You must be ver busy with your marketing class these days aren't youTimro fan..:)
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Posted on 11-09-05 11:33
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For rectifying errors, we first need to find out where the error lies. I think that the error lies in my mind. Once I get clear about the location of the error, noone needs to tell me how to rectify it. But we always try to solve the problems in the periphery, and are never able to solve the core problem. It is because we love to talk about the solution without caring to know about the real problem.
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