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mamta
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Posted on 10-28-05 4:40
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do you all agree if gay marriage should be legalised in the US, and why????
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NepaliPoonte
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Posted on 10-29-05 11:04
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whats your point Nirman?? are our gods homo??:O:O
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Bhaute
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Posted on 10-29-05 11:24
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तिहारको बेलामा "गाइ" (gay) लाई त पुजा गर्नुपर्छ। :p लक्ष्मी (चेलिबेटी) सुरक्षित हुन्छन् नि। :-)
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MatrixRose
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Posted on 10-29-05 11:29
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nepaliG
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Posted on 10-29-05 11:33
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whats your problem nirman bro???? why are you hyper bro?? we are just talking about gay marriage in US, not in nepal or anything or neither we are talking about hindu religion, no need to be hyper bro.. take it easy :D
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SunnyDev
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Posted on 10-29-05 11:49
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What do you think? Is it a Natural tendency or acquired habit like smoking? Smokers should not be insured health care by the state. But disabled should be suported.
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Nirman
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:07
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Well NepaliG, My problem is nothing, Just sharing some thoughts...And most probabaly educating some thinkers who talks like big A$$ about something they don't know about...:)...:D
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Rythm
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:21
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Why is gay marriage such a big deal. I mean why force ppl to NOT do something they want to do. Do you think that making a law that doesnt allow people to be spouses will keep them from doing what they wanna do? If there is a law that says u cant marry anymore... will you stop dating and all that shiz? NO.. so y even bother and think about all these things in the first place. WHy force people to be unhappy. If being gay makes them happy then let it be. No one can change the fact. I had a gay fren and he was a really cool person. I din seee anything wrong with him. Its just prejudice and nothing else.. besides its their life why interfere with it?
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MatrixRose
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:22
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Khai keke dikkai lagni...live and let live...so somple aint it?
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MatrixRose
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:23
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somple=simple...hehe love my typos..
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SobeNO
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:39
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See no hard feelings Mr., but I think being Gay is not a natural phenomena, it?s a disease. Rest of all, just think! If you are religious and believe in God, then I question why would God create such thing as Gay, because certainly God wants every body to be happy and all species to go for positive development, live, let live and give life-so the cycle of life continues, meaning reproduction......hello!... does it ring a bell?? ... Reproduction!! Just think if God wants positive development, then why would God create gays and put a mole to his/her own great plans. So I certainly don?t think its god's will to create Gays, it?s somebody else?s. And if you believe in Science, Theory of Evolution and what not, with what little knowledge I have about evolution; I know that all of these theories point towards one thing- success of any species in future generations to see their offspring flourish in future. It?s a different thing that some succeed and some don?t and that?s when they go extinct. When they go extinct it is either by external factors (like the extinction of dinosaurs due to a comet crash) or simply the species were not well prepared for the rapidly changing environment (like the Mammoths and the Great Saber Tootheds). All the species would want to and have to equip themselves with whatever they can so that they survive on this earth. (Survival of the Fittest-Charles Robert Darwin (1809?1882)). In any of these cases, homosexuality would be a tremendous step back to the species in its struggle for survival and evolution as with more members turning homosexuals means lesser members left to actively participate in the process of reproduction. It is possible to have unisexual organisms or hermaphrodites (like the earthworms), but then it is its own unique strategy for the survival, because in its case, probably it was rather a ?good move? from its evolution point view to have one individual to posses both male and female reproductive organs and reproduce than to have two (male and female) individuals mate. But hey - that?s not the case with Gay Humans, they don?t reproduce. Some people might even question- what is the relation between reproduction and homosexuality, viz gays, it is only simple discussion about whether gays and their intuition be appreciated? But my fellow na?ve people, one thing leads to another and other leads to many and all of it will eventually boil down to one thing-success of us Homo-sapiens as species of the earth in the future. We all have noticed that in recent days, the issues about gay, their institution and their rights are discussed more often than not. Are their numbers growing? Discussion about homosexuality is gaining lot grounds these days? Okay ? some might even say it is because the society have become more open these days and gays in the past were shy to reveal their identities. But think of it- they were shy then and not shy any more. That?s because they know that their numbers have swelled to ever high in recent times and this very shy minority have become not a very minor minority any more. It seems like suddenly the nature has decided that more number humans to be gays than any other time throughout the human history. That of course as suggested by Gays that homosexuality is natural, holds true. But honestly my dear friend Nirman, I think that being a gay was not nature?s choice, it was yours!!
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Nirman
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:46
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Hey SobeNO dude, And U too know the SHIT BEFORE U GET INTO IT... The Homosexuality is not due to choice but due to natural cause, Just google to get some idea dude!!! AND By the way, I m not GAY, and not a narrowheaded like you to hate them!!! Just wanted to say: Evrybody had right to live, Why not them!!! Just for some narrow shit Heads, Why should they compromise...ITS FREE WORLD!!!!
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Ocean
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:47
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Hat's off SobeNO, you wrote everything that I had in my mind !!
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MatrixRose
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Posted on 10-29-05 12:54
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I think this because most people won't want to believe it. They are against gay marriage and aren't going to be swayed by trying to make it a gender issue rather than an orientation issue. It's all a matter of how you spin it. -I am a female. I can marry a male. -I am a male. I cannot marry a male. Ah ha! Gender discrimination! But... -I am a female. I cannot marry someone of my gender. -I am a male. I cannot marry someone of my gender. Sounds fair to me! When it can be spun so easily like that, the anti-gay marriage crowd is going to stick to their guns of keeping this a sexual orientation (or "preference" in their words) issue. I really don't see how it's my decision to make on wether same-sex couples should get married or not. It's their choice, not mine. Why should we as heterosexuals be that arrogant and tell gays that they can't get married?
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Nirman
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Posted on 10-29-05 1:10
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Beekaar ma gangaan gachhan baa manchhe haaru... Gay bhayera, Lesbian bhayera manchhe haaru haapily bancheka chhan bhane aarulai K ko tension ho kunni!!!...Khurukka aafu ni aananda sanga nabasera, tauko dukhairakhchhan!!! Lu dukhau tauko tmehaaru!!! :D
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NepaliPoonte
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Posted on 10-29-05 1:10
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very true!! Though I always have questions in my head about homosexuality that I've never have found answer of, I still think as long as they know their limits they should have right to live. Live and let live ppl.
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Echoes
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Posted on 10-29-05 1:15
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It is frustrating to see some people still resenting the fact that gays exist. I think the question of whether it's a choice or not should be irrelevant. Gays are there (in a very very large number) and they're there for good. The Western societies have long realized that they can't undo it, and that the only way forward is to embrace it as a valid community or subculture (if you think that it's a choice). Is it hard to accept at first? Probably.
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Rythm
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Posted on 10-29-05 5:01
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SobeNO, I did not read all of your posting BUT I got a fair idea that you were talking about how gays are not natural and all that. Well the main thing is IF sex change is allowed through surgical procedures.. which is sooo unnatural BUT legal then why should 2 people of the same sex not be allowed to get married. I mean who cares if they cant reproduce and whatever Darwin says about evolution? Its their choice anyway. If gay people are forced to get married and reproduce as you put it.. then dont u think that the people the marry will be unhappy along with them. IT IS THEIR LIFE and their choice. Why are people acting sooo weird. Forcing people will make no sense. How will you feel if you were born in a gay community and they FORCED you to get married to the same gender as you? Wouldn't that freak you out? Its the same thing I guess. The funny thing is u were like it was Nirman's decision to be gay re haha. Pls dont write that it was my decision to be losbo too.. that would be hillarious. Supporting gay doesnt make one gay now does it?
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SobeNO
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Posted on 10-29-05 10:50
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Ok, my dear friend Nirman, two things for you. First thing first, my apologies that I misunderstood you as a gay. Secondly and more importantly, DONOT make formal statements depending upon what you find in Google. For instance, if you type NAZI in Google, and put the same amount of effort you might find documents praising the NAZI party, and actually glorifying their holocaust and ethnic cleansing. You might find articles posted by Nazi sympathizers where they vehemently support the theory about how Aryans are the super race and all the other races are inferior to them. So the next moment you dont come up here say- "Hey Nazis weren't bad people after all. Actually their theory about Superior race and their intent to eradicate all other races is very realistic very true and from now on I will start to believe in their cause- because that?s what I read off the internet in Google !!!" Come on man, we are making some serious discussions here; please dont bring Google to support your facts. Echoes my friend, I am not resenting to the fact that gays exist. But then I don?t even resent to the fact that wars exist, violence exists, killings exist, crimes exist, sin and all other man made wrongs exists. My point here is not about whether gays exist or not or whether or not they should be allowed to exist. My point here is simple, how come their numbers are in sheer rise in the recent years? Is it because of the publicity that they are getting and their cause hyped up by the media ? so that a young kid who for some other reasons one day does not feel attracted to opposite sex is let to believe that he/she is gay owing to the constant bombardment from the media and would eventually grow up to indulge themselves in homosexual activities? If that is true then the very fact that theory of homosexuality being natural is seriously questionable. Matrixrose, I don?t understand how the issue about homosexuality and gender discrimination relate here. But honestly I don?t believe that an individual being a male or female was their own choice in the first place, it was never theirs and will never be theirs, it was the nature that made the selection. We should all be proud of our genders whether be it female or male. Females and males are the two wheels of a chariot and without each others presence the so called chariot of life wouldn?t move forward. Rhythm, sweet heart, I very much detests the idea of sex change as much as you do. Neither sex change nor homosexuality should be legalized. I am a firm believer of natural cause; everything that happens should be parallel to nature?s will not against it. Nature tends to go for positive change, and both the above mentioned practices threaten its balance. You drew a very good point when you said that if I were forced to marry a same sex individual if I were in gay world. But my lady the point here is that gay world does not exist. It does not exist because its not natural and not self sustainable. Imagine if the human society was gay from the beginning then we would have not been born at all to have this conversation in the first place. The humans have been long extinct by now. Some one made a very good point when he/she made a point that they should be allowed to practice homosexuality as long as they are happy. But my people, thieves are happy to steal, killers are happy to kill, robbers happy to rob, frauds happy to cheat, just because they are happy to do what they are doing, should be allow them to do what they are doing. Definitely NO. I am not saying that all gay activities should be illegal, and catch them and put them in jail and try to suppress them. The thing is about educating them, telling them what is wrong about it, slowly changing the whole scenario. I am a peace loving man and am definitely against using force, but then what is wrong is wrong and we should all be prepared to face it and change it.
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Posted on 10-30-05 12:35
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Posted on 10-30-05 1:21
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wah wah sobeNO nice one there..i mean straight to the point etc :oD... anyways mero opinion..u just made me think of smthing hehe... regarding this homosexuality...i do believe that well nature to us is wat we see or seen so far(get wat i mean?)..so yap wats gonna happen in the future is all speculation hehe..but anyways...well u seem pretty open minded(dun mind me if im assuming wrong hehe...i do assume too fast :oS hehe)...pretty not much gonna talk about GOD here..cos if one talks about GOD..one will def believe there is a right way..the right path..a meanin to our existence etc...im pretty much an agnostic..and being an antagonist(did i get the word right?hehe) for the sake of hearing wat opinion u might give me for me opinions..nice to share hoina?:oD.. anyways as i was sayn...well...u made a good point about Rythm comment of lettn homosexuality be practiced if they are happy doing it. But robbers etc..well alik the example is..u know not that convincing hehe..i mean if the homosexuals are not goin to hurt u physically by doing wat they do with fellow homosexuals... nothing wrong hoina?its not like the robbers who def will hurt someone when they rob them..either physically or in terms of monetary..of cos we can say seeing the world tolerate homosexuality and lettn them practice it is only gonna make the young innocent ones think its correct and well young as we always do think are innocent and less empowered to make decisions and of cos curiosity always gettn the better..they might try smthing they might regret for life..that does scare us doesnt it?cos we think its not natural..but then again how did homosexuality evolve?came to wat it is right now?guess its the world..everything that happens..well in the end..the world is party to blame for it..we are who we are..cos of the things we are taught and learn etc...and well so basically NATURAL i do think like everything is bit overrated.....if the world evolves to become a world where homosexuals thrives..well that be considered natural then hoina?natural is all about the practices we are used to doing..thats me opinion anyways..and hold on will come to the part about reproduction hehe..that im saving for the last hehe...cos i think thats the best part hehe well im not gay btw ;oP hehe...i mean i dun understand why one goes to the other side..but well we cant understand everything can we?and wat we dun understand def scares us doesnt it?... so i guess if u do 'understand' me a bit where im coming from hehe..basically i do question wat is right or wat is wrong..even tho smthing seems more right to than another thing..well basically i dunno why i go into the thinkin of why is it right?was it cos i was brought up to believe its right?well guess it does take time to make rules and regulations and i like to believe the rules and the 'standard' we have currently ..of wat is right and wat is wrong...those things that are taught to us..well guess they were refined thru the history of our existence..its a lot better than wat it was..but of cos that doesnt mean its perfect...maybe there aint such a thing called perfection..but i do believe some 'right' and 'wrong' will change in time..due to situation and circumstances..and i do hope it changes for the better :o)..but wat is better?wat might be better to me ..might not be better for another...we are too opiniated..bloody us humans ;oP hehe.. anyways that interesting part about reproduction...nice example of a guy and a gal being 2 wheels of chariot and needing each other to balance life and moving foward..which is just 'natural' hoina?but well u know our existence has spanned for quite a long time now..and how did we evolve to this?due to too much infos present..i havent really read those scientific theories etc about how we evolved etc..and well..still not sure..if we started as 2 diff cells..or did we all come from one?...well basically we are used to seeing a male and a female for all things natural hoina?so that seems natural hehe.. but well i saw this one documentary and it really opened up me mind and me think more...it was about the "battle of the sexes" in the animal kingdom..and well i guess until now ..no one can really deny the world as they call it..."its a mens world" and i guess tho not everyone might agree to that idea or like it..can one deny it?equality does sound nice..but will it ever reach that stage?well who knows..and wat will happen when there is 'equality' ?thats another thot hehe...have to wait and see re kya..if i still survive till then hehe.. anyways talkn about that documentary..well they were showing among the animals..which female species really ruled the males..and dyam there was a lot hehe...but the number one in the list..this is shockin i tell u!! hehe..well the number one was in this kind of lizard speicies..and guess wat?NO MALES EXIST IN THAT SPECIES!!!hehehee..well males did use to exist once in that species..but the females evolved re..and u know..in the end became independent..and well was able to 'inseminate' themselves...it was able to produce the sperm itself..and to do that..well hehe funny...some lesbian scene ;oP hehe...well basically another female will just arouse the other female (brings a new dimension to ladies on top ;oP ok that was sick hehe thts me duh!!hehe)and well once aroused enuf..the female will be able to fertilize itself heheehe...and guess wats another weird thing?they evolved so much..they 'could' chose the sex and only produce females hehehe..talk about playing 'god' ;oP hehe.... and well the documentary did of cos made another point that we humans...u know the scientific theory .. female have only one X chromosome(isnt it?hehe) in them and the males..XY chromosome...thats why males are males and females are females hehe...but well they said...scientist has noticed that the Y chromosome has been becoming smaller and smaller thru time...X is def bigger among the two..and of cos...if its gettn smaller and smaller..of cos scientist is gonna get worried that it will disappear one day..and that means only X hromosome left...and if only X left..that means...TAADAAA!!...one gender will be gone..so yap is that Natural?hehe diff from wat we thot nature is hoina?anyways thats just speculating...but the scientist etc made the point that...this evolution esp lookn at the that species of lizard is very possible....we humas have always been adapting thru our whole existence..so who knows?one day...if the world still exist...there will be females who will be 'gossiping' about guys ..the males species...that once existed and they never got to see...or know wat they were like?hehe..so wat is natural bhaney?hehe.. anyways yap as i said...that is just speculation and wat exist now..is the truth hehe..but in the future..truth might be diff hoina?...culturally..we do end up influencing ourselves in the head...and making us think about things and have opinions..but our bodies hehe..who knows how they will evolve hehe...as for homosexuals..i dun understand them..cos im not one re kya hehe...but i am who i am...and well..basically maybe the homosexuals(esp the guys) ...who knows?they might be subconciously embracing the 'bro' love that will cease to exist one day re kya ;oP hehe... anyways enuf of bhakwash...but nice to read ur opinions...cheers for sharing..and dun mind me bhakwash opinions hehe..but hehe...still kinda find it funny thinkn....one day if our 'use' is gone..since we def wont be able to produce babies!!duh!!unless we start growing wombs inside us hehe..lookin at that lizard species...hehe..we def will be 'toys' in the future..useless i tell u!!useless!!!the whole point of 'existing' that we thot we existed for..will be gone!! ;oP hehe...so much for "its a mens world" hehe...but oh well who knows wat will happen hoina?lets hope for mens sake...we aint becoming homosexuals cos in the future..gals wont 'need' us..so we already 'stickin' with our won gender and gettn ready for the 'inevitable' future hehe..and females too stickin to females to get ready that 'future' ;oP hehe...well thats why im sayng...lets be a bit less thick and care and share and u know...dun underestimate those "you go gal" ..and "gals power" sayings... so future rulers of the world..U GO GAL!!!hehe....treat me as a human being even tho im useless hai :o(...females are known for their compassion hoina?so hopefully u all will stay the same way re kya ;o)..(think i scored "brownies points" there..watever u call it hehe..and i was tryn to re kya ;oP hehe) ok enuf bhakwash wahahaha..dyam wat did i end up writing :o| me head was spinnin so had to write..hehe...dun mind me ;oD... ----------------------- and back to the main question of "Do you all agree if gay marriage should be legalised in the US, and why????" I agree cos duh!!i think im a human..and humans are supposed to be adaptable hoina?so im tryn to adapt to it..tho wont ever really understand why some are gays..some a straight ..guess diversity is always gonna be present like it or not hehe...some states already practice it..so well like it or not..gays are here to stay hehe...but i guess in terms of monetary terms..some states will not agree..cos they have to give some privelege to the married gays like other 'normal' married couples get.....and yap..that is more about greed hoina?hehee.. good day :oD...and hehe enuf!!!!after this post wahahaha..think i better hide for a while hehe..such BS :o| dyam me and me BS :o| hehehe....but then again..anonymity as they say..makes u do weird weird things ;oP...so oh well..and wat i type is kinda incomprehensible...so dun worry if u dun hehe...its just the way i am re kya..acceptance ppl!!!hehe...and yap...dun mind me re kya ;o) hehe...just sharing me opinions which i better stop having/gettn :oS hehe... dun stop blasting ur keyboard ;o) hehe...(sandhurst bro wat have u done :o| i shudnt type to begin with :o| pls pray for me!!!that i will stop typing :o| hehe..i want to stop!!!!!:o| but ironies :oS..cant stop :oS..esp when i start :oS hehe...) *gone*
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