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San
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Posted on 09-16-04 12:06
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Time and again, keeping in tune with the flow of energy here on sajha, we have had to make few positive changes here and there. I am sure we all agree that sajha is an excellent source of time pass for most of us who visit the site regularly. It is very encouraging to see excellent pieces of writing here on sajha once in a while. But, as the nature of discussion forums go, these writings disappear into oblivion very soon. Hence lot of good writings disappear from view into the annals of the sajha archives. In order to provide an easier way to access good pieces of writing, I am currently coming up with a concept of a WRITERS' GUILD - with coaxing from few sajhaites - which will be a webpage where accompliced writers from sajha will be able to post their pieces directly into a non-discussion based Newsletter Formated page, sort of like suskera if you will, but where the accompliced writers will be able to post at will. The notion is that this Writers' Guild will entertain more serious writing and not immature bashings and one liners that we see so very often in sajha. This guild is going to be different in that it will have few articles posted by few writers but which are of more quality. Selection of writers will be by invitation only. I have a few writers in mind who have time and again written excellent pieces, but I would like to hear from you visitors on who you would vote for. Also, if you are interested in participating in this kind of site, please let me know directly at admin@sajha.com Best Wishes, San
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jira
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Posted on 09-17-04 3:48
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ko ho pheri accomplished writer bhanya? Like marich said earlier, aa-aaphno thaam ma sabbai accomplished. pheri byaan byannai phone aawula.."ye tero lai woota haldechhan ni..la badhhai cha..aba baisaakh 1 gatey takma lawuna jani haina ta"..auni aaphailey aaphailai accomplished nabhani sukkha!!..auni purpuro ma haat layera..."ye ba! kasto ghando aai lagyo yo"....jindagi ma katti katti tension ..Tundikhel ma sootya belan ni kina kichkich pheri!... I think everybody who writes in sajha is an accomplished writer. Everybody has her/his own creative idea put into words one way or another. Elimination of some sporadic useless threads is virtually impossible while enjoying the full-fledged democracy. Jindagi bhar hawubhawu dekhayera pani woota Madonna dijju lay baccha phakawuni kitab nikalya 1 barsha bhaisakyo..baywatch ki pyam dijju lay ta jhan austi kata ho best writer ko award jitya jasto laagcha...yasto belan ko accomplished? ko non accomplished? So , my idea is .... "Tundikhel ma sootya belan agadi ayera kukur lay aachi garyo bhaney kolto pharkera badaam chhodawuni..para ramri taruni hini bhaney sano aankha parera jhimjhim gardai ghoorni"
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sandsoftime
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Posted on 09-17-04 4:46
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hahaha Jira... that was funny! If I had to vote I'd surely vote for you after reading your 'Sata ko Bhavishya'. You know, that could be a new genre of writing! At least you make us laugh...:-) You know what San is getting at so, forget Madonna and Pam di... new opportunity is just around the corner for you! In jest... SofT
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Moneyminded
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Posted on 09-17-04 4:50
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Very well said jira dai..........u r the one in sajha i can say dai......who has respect for all the ppl and know the feeling of others and the example u give was simple fantastic......u r kinda like ma ........based on lot of example and role model.........i have more intense side u got more softer side....... Dear san dai, U did a great job with the sajha.com........i have been fan of site for ages.....the only reason i am here coz one day i couldnot resist at all.........i enter.........u may blame me as well but u dont look that kind...........It is satpati sat ture that since i came to room ..........it has went babal................it is true but aleast i have helped lot of ppl who never felt there presence here coz of some members here.......i am sure u agree that some ppl here are too much on show off.............I have been a great influencer since i was kid..............i have done it intentionally or non-intentionally............but it happens..........coz i talk for ppl..................i follow way of micheal moore..........he does makes some drama but he does speak for them...........which is essential for every single degree and by every inch................I have to say that u r idea of sis site............that is not great coz u gonna lost the value and popularity of ur site......as i have seem but if u make sis site under same umberlla than make sure that u make this site comment site............so that even bullshit guy like me wont get chance to publish it but aleast comment..............it........ last time i tried to post my death scenario in sajha ..................then some stud comment and made fun of feeling over here...........i dont care...........infact i appreciate sarcasim.............. so dude keep it up................
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KG4MVP
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Posted on 09-17-04 6:13
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Since that is going to be a completely different site but only under the umbrella of Sajha, I don't see any problem with it as long as Sajha remains the way it is. As for the accomplished vs non(un)-accomplised is concerned, you can move some of the articles from the regular sajha postings as well to that new site if you (or some others) find it interesting. Ukhan nai cha ni, Nepali ko Mutt milcha tara Matt(vote) chahi mildaina. It is good that you have put forward the question to the public here but I suggest you go with the creation of that site anyway without trying to win consensus from everyone. Some people here will DISAGREE just for the sake of Disagreeing !!! And we know that all too well.
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DP
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Posted on 09-17-04 8:57
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San: It was almost a year ago, I had posted a thread about putting all the "good writings" under a different category.I believe that is very important (and needed very much in Sajha).Discussion forum is totally different from literary platform. I agree with harvestmoon (above).Instead of "invitation", it should be "submission".You set the criteria and we submit our articles.If they meet the standard, they will be published. It is not hard (for anyone) to know "good" writings from "not-so-good" ones. For example: Oys_Chill.Everytime he comes back with his "Memory Lane", I see many responses...all positive.He is just an example.There are many here in Sajha. It will make Sajha more attractive.It will also motivate us to polish our writings. You could have just gone ahead and started it.You were kind enough to let us discuss on it and present our two cents. You have my vote. DP.
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SITARA
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Posted on 09-17-04 9:21
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If it's going to be submission versus invitation and/or nomination, I would vote(it must be the political air) for submission!
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DCKETA
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Posted on 09-17-04 11:48
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Thats a good point SITARA ji, But Submission would create a huge flow of writing and its gonna be hard In the other end to decide which to be published unless we have some dedicated Personel to filter through. Just my one cent analysis. Thanks
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DISCO
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Posted on 09-17-04 12:02
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San should just go ahead and start up the site withought having to involve the sajhaits. Involving the Sajhaits will only compound and transmit the seemingly innate problem in sajha of calibered Vs. uncalibered writers aptitude and raise unnecessary questions. Submission based post sounds like a preferable medium. My suka.
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-17-04 12:03
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'Accomplished writer' is probably a wrong (at least politically) word. However, for a well intended purpose, we certainly can put the postings (not the posters, ni) into two categories based on their size (not the quality, again that's too subjective) write-ups ( at least a paragraph of a decent size) and chat (one-liners of the sort). A good balance of them will be a good strategy for Sajha's long term survival and competitive edge, in my view. Sajha indeed used to have a good number of writer type of posters. Many of them, including my most favorite ones, have disappeared or post rarely. It is likely that each individual has unique reason and circumstance for that to happen. Some may have set different priorities, some may have tired of personal fights, some may have thought they are addicted too much and are going through rehab. As the owner, you indeed deserve right to think of changes that will encourage the old posters to return or be active again and new comers or silent readers to be writer posters. I honestly don't know how that can be successfully done. However, I agree that giving more visibility or at least easier access to these decent sized works may be one of the many things helpful. However, I absolutely disagree with the suggestion of no reply type of closed postings. I strongly believe that the strength of Sajha and the reason for it's popularity is the large number of postings in reply. A separate site could be okay for experimentation for now. Although I think it might divide the total strength into two halves. However, the idea of a closed Guild does not sound good. Mero dui paisa.
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Deep
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Posted on 09-17-04 12:29
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ke ko halla ko? ko ho ekamplis raitar rey? Heri, Nepe sir ekamplis, Ashu sir duikamplis, bhumigat Biswo sir tinkamplis, jiradai charkamplis, sitara hazur pachkamplis, Oys bro chha---Lekhak saat----ani feri Gokul sir----meri bassai kamplis ko ke kami hamro sajha ma? --- aba ek thulo ki dui ta kata bara herne tyasma bhar parchha ni gathe! Haina sanbrole jammai ghag harulai lagera kampliseswor ma dyang dung jakne bhanya chha ra? baru ma po kati kamplis ho kati----
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confused
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Posted on 09-17-04 1:51
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haha submission?? bull crap..who will judge what will be posted and what wont..no one has time for it...this site is suppose to be for FUN and to PASS TIME...u all are taking it too seriously...San i beilive already has 2 jobs, one his real job other the sajha job...and talking abt sajha job, he maintains what he can, and he doesnt have time to go thru all the submission.. san bro, if u are really want to only see "ACCOMPLISHED WRITERS" in sajha's sis e-magazine site, go give advertisement on local news paper u will find a lot of journalists waiting for jobs..plus by doing this sajha will loose it value.. YAH ...THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS ...IN OUR RELIGION..TOO..BRAHMANS..THE HIGHEST CAST..AND MOST EDUCATED ONES...THOUGHT THEY WERE THE GREATEST ONE AND STARTED MAKING RULES....THAT IS WHY PEOPLES..TO MUCH EDUCATION IS BAD IF PEOPLES CANNOT THIINK FROM A GROUNDS OF PRESPECTIVE...- -----MONEY STLYE , KIDDO INFLUENCE..
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DP
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Posted on 09-17-04 2:49
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Oye, Confused: Why are you so negative about the idea?Why are you so much after San?It is his site, let him do what he wants. DP
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sense
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Posted on 09-17-04 2:53
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malai ta yo accomplished bhanne sabda nai kasto kasto lagna thalyo...uuhi raja le Sher Bhadur lai kahile accomplished ra kahile unaccomplished bhanera nuikti ra bhooiuukli graya jastai....regression bhayena ra bhanya uuta girija bau uufrya uufrai chan. eeuta suggestion dimta...kholne eeuta thap website kholne ..nepali community lai net ma bistar garnu ramro ra samauchit cha tara democratic hune ki..put forward certain criteria..like language, flexibility in using words, etc... tyespachi ta those who r eligible can have the access...those who rnt can try keeping the criteria in mind...it may be time consuming but 'submission' lai boost up garna this can be one step forward....afterall democratic is the most expensive but the best system....kaso huh?
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Posted on 09-17-04 3:19
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Like Gham-Pani suggested.. change the name of this site as well from "SAJHA." Confused is right. If San wants writers for his new web-site, there are many in the street who are "accomplished" and are waiting for an opportunity. And yes, DP, San owns this site, he can do whatever he wants with it. He can definitely be the only one to post and read threads here.
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Posted on 09-17-04 4:23
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I am a regular visitor to Sajha and often a silent reader other than posting once in a while some smarty pant comments. But yes, whatever time I spend here, I would like to read pieces from the writers who have some distinct views supported by better command of English. Whatever a "Page 2", the creator of this forum site was talking about sounds great to me. At least, I as a visitor, can read better thoughts and better ideas from writers with superior persuasive skills to convince me or impress me by thier thoughts no matter how much I disagree with it than in general, writers with a mediocre thoughts with elementary English that we often see here in Sajha. Now I do not know what is a criteria for "accomplished writer" but this idea of having better writers in one site is great. I often come here expecting to read some decent arguements but more often what I see here is that better writers are ganged-up against by some mediocre hyenas with teenaged type arguements and cheap bashing and that really makes me sick. I know I do not have to visit this site if I think it is a big joke but the crave of reading the better pieces of fellow Nepalese always brings me here. Lets hear from people with great thoughts without thier arguements being quashed by some stupid people getting personal and disparaging remarks with often male-ego dominated comments. This is a great idea of San and I want to see better things happening rather than absolute mediocrity
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Moneyminded
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Posted on 09-17-04 5:11
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Ishwar taile rachera feri kasri bigaris Shriti ko fula sachera pheri kasari lataris................ hey sajha ka bidwan mahajan ho............purpuro maa haath..........kaadalo maa laath.........jeevan le chode sako saath...............kina ho esri afo bidya ko maath..............jasari prajatantra ko artha cha tesri teslai pura garnu hamro kartabe pani cha..............ke dekh nu paryo ne yo nayan le.................jun rastra maa ajhai pani 70 % muna haru le ganaune mojetro wodna chodeko chaina.......jaba ke 20% muna haru desh bahirrea vidya hasil gare bhandai...........sabai lai rastra ka pidit nari haru ganaune anuhar le herne.........arko tira 20 % madan haru le ke asaal chisya payo bhandai maa 70 % madan haru jo ajai pani makai ko dhedo khana codeko chaina , jo afno astito jamau na harek din prayas garirako chan...........jo budijibi barga ko haath thamna khoje ka chan........bhane ........arko tira uni haru panchi raheka chan.......................jai hos sati le sarapeko ko desh..........nepal........
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Posted on 09-17-04 5:31
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Can I copy paste aticles from great collection just incase i am elected..HAHAHAHAHAHA. Hey excluded Sajhatis no worry, I am goin to launch carbon copy, I will let you guys a chance to whatever strom in.
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Dananah
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Posted on 09-18-04 4:27
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San bro hehehe...(abo saab lai bro...saw ur pic ..u are not as old as i thot u are ;oP) mero opinion.,..why dun u do what wht u think is right?u have the power ni ;o)..its good to be democratic..but hehe u cant please everyone :o)....its thru trail and error u can find out whats the best for everyone..so try...before this idea of urs...gets killed by the negative comments..hehe...how good an idea maybe abo...of cos it will have faults..:o).... plus sajha is full of colorful characters...reading their views smtimes even 'shocks' me.'shock' as in more than the feeling or surprised but less than shock hehe.(btw not that much..dun think too higly urselves...u..u 'shockers'!!u know who u are :oP) and i thought i who could shock others ..did i ever thought i will get shocked?well yes i did think i will get shocked ;oP... time will tell :o).... and i dunno who brought this up?but a good question...how do we define..'accomplished' writer? we can never know how much a good writing some ppl might have in them..ppl whom we think are shitheads hehe.. well i too hope someone can really can come with a good answer to that question and make me agree ..with this world..with all this stereotyping..:o).. ok im outta here...have fun all...looking foward to this idea..:o)...just feel like reading these days ;o)... cheers :o) danny
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Posted on 09-19-04 12:02
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You must keep sending work out; you must never let a manuscript do nothing but eat its head off in a drawer. You send that work out again and again, while you're working on another one. If you have talent, you will receive some measure of success - but only if you persist. PPl do say that"Write something to suit yourself and many people will like it; write something to suit everybody and scarcely anyone will care for it."so wht i believe in is Inspiration is wonderful when it happens, but the writer must develop an approach for the rest of the time... The wait is simply too long. As i don't go through every single post here can't vote for any specific one but i wanna say In comparing various authors with one another, I have discovered that some of the gravest and latest writers have transcribed, word for word, from former works, without making acknowledgment. Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes.
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San
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Posted on 09-19-04 8:18
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Alright. I think I got some pretty good feedback on this and am thinking of a submission based site. I do believe that 'accomplished' was a wrong choice of word! In any event, I appreciate the fact that quite a few of you understand the need for this site. Thank you everyone for your valuable suggestions and for taking time to write your opinions. Sajha has many talented writers and a literary site devoted to good writing is in order here. The Sajha Writers' Guild is coming soon to a browser near you!
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