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symlyn
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Posted on 02-03-07 8:53
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I have worked and lived a sixth of my life outside of Nepal. And if I wanted to do so again, I could (technically) live outside Nepal. So many of my well-wishers (or so they would me to think of them) always seem to be intrigued of me living and working in Nepal. Some of them think (and are not hesitant to even say out publicly) I am stupid in still staying in while I still had the opportunity to go outside. Readmore>> http://torilaure.com/?p=96
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Gorkhali09
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Posted on 02-03-07 6:19
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anybody else out there who feels the same way as symlyn?? I am going back to Nepal for good in couple of months after 11 years of stay in the US. I would be interested to see if we Nepalese abroad think we can do and achieve more in Nepal. Speak up ppl. Lets try to make a difference. every little thing adds up. Lets build our Nepal. I know i am willing to give my hand. Is there anybody else?.
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Posted on 02-03-07 6:55
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I think if you were successful in U.S or foreign land you are likely going to have a good life out there aswell. If you couldn't make it here than likely you won't make it there aswell. Peace
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harikancha
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Posted on 02-03-07 8:47
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its an excuse for people abroad to say that u won't have opportunity in nepal...but you know a probverb in nepali "khane mukh lai junga le chekdaina.."" so u must be brave and strong enough to return to nepal....and u must be courageous to start carrer in nepal....it not the thing that every body [normal people-( office to home tye or people who think only abot themselves)] can do it ....good luck....
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pire
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Posted on 02-03-07 8:58
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As a person living in USA rightnow, my SIXTH year now, I think I have thought about 1000 times in my life whether I truly want to live here. Whenever I go home, I feel like I cheated my country. I have already stopped cursing local politicians. The country sent me to a good school, good college, and I got those chances while thousands others were deprived of basic amenities such as schools and colleges. And now, when I have to give something back, I am running away. I know you have to live where you become happy. Do I fit here? No. Heck, when I topped my class one day and got the highest mark in probability class, I wanted to jump with joy, and I had no one to share that. I missed my highschool's friends at the time. We used to go to movie together, we used to go to eat samosa chat together, and now the only thing I am left with is memory. May be I am too weak. But I definitely don't want to live a life where you don't know your apartment's neighbors, or your neighbors. I want to have a life. And in the morning, I want to go to Pashupatinath, and things like that. My country is poor, but I love every bit of it. I hope that we will be richer one day. And for us to be richer, a lot of us has to go back. A lot of us has to use our knowledge there. And yes, a lot of us has to come here also. Insulation won't make us rich, but desertion won't either.
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pire
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Posted on 02-03-07 9:28
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ALSO: I always fear that when my mom or dad become "very sick" (with god's blessing, they are healthy now), I won't be able to attend them. I am a single son. What am I supposed to tell them, "my boss won't be happy?" or something like that. Jeez. If I ask my boss, he actually very likely lets me go to Nepal, and often the real excuse is money. And how much money do we earn here anyway? Back home, I could be something. Even when I am nothing. I think I really appreciate you living in Nepal. Just do something creative. Make yourself happy, make yourself convinced that you are doing something that is going to make yours, and somebody else's, life better.
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ImI
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Posted on 02-03-07 9:31
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hmm... Do i want to go back to Nepal? In 10 years half the people of ktm will die without water and other half would be killed in riots. In 2 years , KTM will be seeing the bright electric bulb glowing only one hour a day. well above was pessimistic me even then i hope to go back one day. WHY ? A good friend of mine who is not Nepali when i was talking about Nepal told me : " To Make a home , A head of the family has to sacrifice, To make a country a Generation has to sacrifice" {this might relate to some great people quotes - i don't know} WHY I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK? - I am afraid i will be one of them - corrupt - I don't doubt myself i wouldn't be successful out there but i am afraid my success would not really mean anything to the country.[Success- Making money]I will be enagaged in the same way or people will push me into the same system.Many people have tried .Can i take a chance?
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pire
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Posted on 02-03-07 10:01
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Imi, You can make a difference. You are damn right that a generation has to sacrifice. You know, I never got a good math class on derivative and integration, and I didn't really understand the meaning of it when in Nepal. Now I understand derivative, integration, limit so well, that I want to teach the kids what they really mean. As for money: I have noted that most Nepali in USA don't give a donation of more than 20 or 30 dollars to even a great cause. Even those who are here since thirty years and drive SUV, don't really have much in their pocket. khaana ra basna ta nepaalmaa pani pugeko thiyo jasto laagchha. I had a big house there, here I live in a cramped apartment. aba ke bhanne. let me finish here, and not be personal. Do I smell a good momo here? Oops. It is just a hallucination.
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Gorkhali09
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Posted on 02-04-07 2:52
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It's a very sad thing that only two or three people discussing this situation even though there are a whole lot who feels the same way as pire or Imi do. Pire, last year same thing happened to me. i got a call from ktm n then i found out that my mom had died. It was all of a sudden. My dad doesn't want me to go back but i am going back 'cause i dont' want to leave my dad alone. who knows i might not see him again if i decide to stay any longer. Sacrifice, yap somebody has to do it. well why not me;)... been here long enough and done this n dat. Pire you are right, we can make a different there. I will be one in thousand there where as in The US i will be one in millions. I would rather have that life there. Lets join hand in hand n try to make a difference so that next generation won't blame the corrupt politicians, like we do. Things will change eventually. We are in between two power houses. they have to change us for good for them to get better. after all we got some natural resources. If you dont' believe urself then what can i say. I might be corrupt but i might take less money to do things. that's a positive way to look at it Imi;)... doesn't mean that i will be corrupt:D. I don't have to go there to be in politics or to work for government. lots of ppl die in accidents here too. 50 years ago ppl had difficulty in this country too. doesn't mean that our country can't take a step forward. lets be us to make a difference. lets try something.
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nepaliguyinOmaha
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Posted on 02-04-07 7:47
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My opinion is if someone is willing and work hard, they can get whatever they want.. whether it be Nepal or US... on the other hand, I'm pretty passive guy.. happy w/ a 8-5 job, don't have much goals... so if i go to Nepal, my situation probably get worse... but whoever is trying to go back and give into the motherland, praise to u and good luck... w/ that kinda determination, i think u'lll succeed.
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Gorkhali09
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Posted on 02-04-07 9:51
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thanks nepaliguyinomah. i appreciate ur comment. ;)
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BigBallaR
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Posted on 02-04-07 11:18
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Damn after listening to ya'll i feeel l like going to nepal too
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Posted on 02-05-07 12:39
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i will join you guys once i complete my studies here. Having live in foreign countries for almost 20 years now i feel that i have so much responsiblities to contribute to our society, our nation.
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pire
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Posted on 02-05-07 12:43
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मित्रहरु, धन्यबाद कमेन्टको लागि, मुख्य गरेर हाम्रो गोर्खालि साथिलाई। हाम्रो अमेरिकामा दुइखालका नेपालीहरु छन, एक खालका ले त हाम्रो जस्तो कुरो बुज्छन, अर्को खालकाले चाहिँ नेपालमा गएर काम गर्ने सबै नेपालीहरु अमेरिकामा जागिर पाएनन अनि गए भन्दै बस्छन। होला। तर त्यसरी होच्याउनुमा बिचराहरुको आफ्नै हीनताबोध पनि छ, आफै मात्र जान्ने आफै मात्र राम्रो भन्ने मान्छेहरु सबभन्दा बढि हीनताबोधले ग्रस्त हुन्छन रे क्या। सरकारी छात्रबृत्तिमा आएर यता बस्ने हरु प्रति साँच्चै भन्ने हो भने मलाई घृणा मात्र छ। अझ त्यस्ताले नेतालाई भ्रष्ट भन्दा त मलाई थुकौं जस्तो लाग्छ। यहाँ एउटा प्रसंग उल्लेख गरिहालुँ। धेरै पहिले मैले टोनि हेगनको एउटा किताप पढेको थिए, उनि राणाकाल सक्किने बेला गाउँ घुम्दा धेरै बिदेश पढेका लाउरे हरु आफ्नो गाउँमा स्कुल चलाएर बसेका देखेछन्। ति लाहुरेहरुले भनेका हुन्छन, 'भारत तथा अरु ठाउँमा पनि बस, यहि पढाउ य अरु जागिर खाउ' भन्दा पनि आफ्नो देश आयौ, हामीले नपढेर दुख पायौ, अब अरुले नपाउन भनेर। म त छक्क। त्यो बेलाको कुरो। राणाहरुले जागीर दिनु त के, स्कुल खोल्नेलाई झ्यालखानामा हाल्ने बेलाको कुरो। आज कति पय केटाहरु म लाई भन्छन, 'महिनाको एकलाख रुपिया पाए त जान्थेहुला'। त्यस्ता मान्छे हेरेर मलाई टीठ लाग्छ। भन्छन नि, ग्रीड र नीड भन्ने दुइकुरा हुन्छन रे, ग्रीड कहिले पुग्दैन, नीड भन्ने कुरो पन्ध्र हजार रुपियाले पनि पुग्छ। आफु पढेलेखेको बाउआमा छ भने छोराछोरीलाई किन महँगो बोर्डिङ पढाउनु पर्यो, आफैले राती घरमा बसेर राम्रो सँग पढाए हुन्न? अनि अमेरिकामा बसेर जानेहरुलाई इख पनि हुन्छ, यो बिदेशीहरुले हामीलाई हेप्छन भन्ने, र राम्रो काम गर्न मनलाग्छ। देखेका जानेका पनि हुन्छन। जंग बहादुरले बेलायतबाट फर्केर पहिला मुलुकी ऐन जारी गरेका थिए, उदाहरणको लागि।पहिला त नत्र जे अपराधमा पनि अंगभंग गर्ने, जारी काट्ने आदि चलन थियो। जँगले हामी सभ्य हुनुपर्छ, दुनिया कहाँबाट कहाँ पुगिसक्यो भनेर त्यसो गरेको। उसको अरु बैगुण त थियो, तर गुण मात्र उल्लेख गरेको यहाँ। अब अमेरिकामा बस्नेनेपालीमा दुइटा मुख्य 'ट्रेट' देखिन्छ, 'यहाँ नोकर भयो अरुको, र नेपालमा मालिक हुन खोज्यो'। ठुलोठुलो युनिभर्सिटिको प्रोफेसर आदिको कुरा छोडौ उनीहरु त साच्चै बिद्वान हो, तर अरु झारेझुरे ठाउँमा काम गर्ने, वेबपेज बनाएर गुजारा गर्नेले पनी आफुलाई बिद्वान भएको जस्तो ठानेर नेपालका नेता, नेपालका सिभिल सोसाइटि सबैलाई गाली गरेको देख्दा ति आफै कति पटमुर्ख रहेछन भन्ने जस्तो लाग्छ। अब कति लेखुँ। मुखको तितो फाल्याइ मात्र भो। आफु त चाँडै घर गइन्छ, एउटा राम्रो कम्पनि खोल्ने बिचार छ, शायद फाइनान्स कम्पनिहरु को सर्भिस प्रोभाइडर र एउटा टुरिज्म रिलेटेड। देश शान्ति भयो भने त टुरिज्म मा पैसा टन्न छ। अनि, फुर्सदमा टन्न साथिभाइहरु सँग बसेर मम खाइन्छ, सरकारीस्कुलका बच्चाबच्चिहरुलाई फ्री अंग्रेजि र गणितको शिक्षा शुरु गर्छु, अमेरिका बाट फर्केका म जस्ता भोलुन्टीरहरु जम्मा पारेर। केहि नभए पनि शनिबार र आइतबार। सबैले आफुले सकेको गर्ने त हो। र अन्त्यमा, मधेशको हकहीतको लागी पनि केहि गर्नुपर्छ। अब चाहि अरु जातिको मान्छेलाई होच्याएर बोल्न हुन्न, नत्र पछि हामिलेनै दुख पाउछौ भन्ने पनि सिकाउनु पर्ने भाछ, बच्चाहरुलाई सानै देखि।
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sayami
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Posted on 02-05-07 1:19
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. पिरेजी शुरुमा खुब मिठा मिठा कुरा सुनाउनु हुन्थ्यो। तपाइको कुरामा पनि बिस्तारै अहिले तितोपन आउन थाल्यो। के आफुलाइ चित्त नबुझेको कुरा, अरुले भनेको कुरामा आफ्नो कुरासंग मेल नखांदा बिबादमा भागलिन के पिएचडि नै गरेको हुनु पर्ने हो कि? तपाइ अहिले प्रजातान्त्रीक देशमा बसेर अप्रजातन्त्रीक कुरा गर्ने। तपाइले अर्ति पाठ गर्दै जाने र हामि केहि नबोलिकन सिर्फ दक्षिणा मात्र चढाउदै जाने? तपाइले इतिहासमा त पिएचडि गर्नु भयो होला तर अरु थोक त अझै धेरै सिक्नु छ तपाइले!! मैले कलिलो उमेरमा देश छोडेको अहिले २३ बर्ष भयो। तर नेपाललाइ बिर्सेको छैन। मैले यहां बसेर पनि हाम्रो देशको जात पातको अनेककुरा कुरा सिक्दै छुं।
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Posted on 02-05-07 1:28
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सायमिजि, तपाईसँग बहस गर्न बेकार छ,किनकि जहातहि जातभातको कुरो नगरी तपाईलाई हुदैन। तर तपाईको लागि सुचना, म इतिहास मा पिएचडि हैन। त्यो मैले जे लेखेको थिए अर्को थ्रेअडमा, त्यो मेरो आफ्नै सच्चा परिचय हैन। साझामा आफ्नै ब्यक्तीगत परिचय दिइराख्नु जरुरी छैन। नाम कमाउन अरु पनी उपाय छन। साँच्चै भन्ने भने तपाईले भन्न खोजेको के भन्ने समेत बुझिन मैले।
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Posted on 02-05-07 2:16
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In my first visit in nepal after yrs,I got nothing but bitter experience.while going to Pashupatinath in the early morning my cousin was driving a TAXI( evn though thas not his profession,actually he owns a Taxi ).He happened to over take a private pajero or something,wat so ever,it was 4 wheels drive..May be he didnt like it or something.He jumped out of his jeep in the middle of the road.Then he starts punching my cousin's face.I was so shocked at the first place.I didnt see any reason to treat him like a dog.After of couple of minutes a policeman came in.they talked in a private for few secs,then he ordered my cousins to pull his taxi on the side.The most annoying thing is that he was addressing that guy as hajur,tapai and ta,padhata karaus?,uta gaihal to my cousins.... Afer couple of arguements,they took our taxi to the station..and we discovered that guy was already gone..and was PA of some minister. ( I heard them talking with each other,tyo Vip ko gadi) Since that incident,my cousin never drives Taxi...
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Posted on 02-05-07 9:10
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i will join u guys after i win the lottery
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Posted on 02-05-07 9:36
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Whenever I go home, I feel like I cheated my country. I have already stopped cursing local politicians. The country sent me to a good school, good college, and I got those chances while thousands others were deprived of basic amenities such as schools and colleges. And now, when I have to give something back, I am running away. I know you have to live where you become happy. Do I fit here? No. Heck, when I topped my class one day and got the highest mark in probability class, I wanted to jump with joy, and I had no one to share that. I missed my highschool's friends at the time. We used to go to movie together, we used to go to eat samosa chat together, and now the only thing I am left with is memory. May be I am too weak. But I definitely don't want to live a life where you don't know your apartment's neighbors, or your neighbors. I want to have a life. And in the morning, I want to go to Pashupatinath, and things like that. My country is poor, but I love every bit of it. I hope that we will be richer one day. And for us to be richer, a lot of us has to go back. A lot of us has to use our knowledge there. And yes, a lot of us has to come here also. Insulation won't make us rich, but desertion won't either. Pireji, well composed. अब अमेरिकामा बस्नेनेपालीमा दुइटा मुख्य 'ट्रेट' देखिन्छ, 'यहाँ नोकर भयो अरुको, र नेपालमा मालिक हुन खोज्यो'। ठुलोठुलो युनिभर्सिटिको प्रोफेसर आदिको कुरा छोडौ उनीहरु त साच्चै बिद्वान हो, तर अरु झारेझुरे ठाउँमा काम गर्ने, वेबपेज बनाएर गुजारा गर्नेले पनी आफुलाई बिद्वान भएको जस्तो ठानेर नेपालका नेता, नेपालका सिभिल सोसाइटि सबैलाई गाली गरेको देख्दा ति आफै कति पटमुर्ख रहेछन भन्ने जस्तो लाग्छ। but could not appreciate above paragraph. -यहाँ आएर सिक्ने नै काम प्रतिको कदर र सम्मान हो।कुनै पनि काम झारझुरे हुदैन र यहाँ यो देशमा काम र काम गर्ने प्रति इज्जत गर्न सिकिन्छ,सबैमा केहि न केहि कम्जोरि हुन्छ र तपाइले पनि यो छ बर्षमा सबै कुरा त सिक्नु भो तर अरुको काम लाइ कदर गर्न चाहि अझै सिक्नु भएन जस्तो छ।तपाइका लेख र बिस्लेषणहरु राम्रा छन,त्यसैले नेपाल जानु अघि अलि अलि भएको मनको मैलो हटाएर जानु भए सुनमा सुगन्ध हुने थियो।अन्यथा नसोच्नु होला,मलाइ जे लाग्यो त्यो मात्रै व्यक्त गर्ने प्रयास गरेको हुँ।
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Posted on 02-05-07 10:50
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Pire wrote: "आफु त चाँडै घर गइन्छ, एउटा राम्रो कम्पनि खोल्ने बिचार छ, शायद फाइनान्स कम्पनिहरु को सर्भिस प्रोभाइडर र एउटा टुरिज्म रिलेटेड। देश शान्ति भयो भने त टुरिज्म मा पैसा टन्न छ। अनि, फुर्सदमा टन्न साथिभाइहरु सँग बसेर मम खाइन्छ, सरकारीस्कुलका बच्चाबच्चिहरुलाई फ्री अंग्रेजि र गणितको शिक्षा शुरु गर्छु, अमेरिका बाट फर्केका म जस्ता भोलुन्टीरहरु जम्मा पारेर। केहि नभए पनि शनिबार र आइतबार। सबैले आफुले सकेको गर्ने त हो।" Excellent thoughts. Hope you will live these dreams! oohi ashu
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