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dutchy bunch
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Posted on 12-12-05 10:46
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Hey, those of who have graduated from college, how important do you think grades are? Lately, I haven't been able to find any motivation in doing better in my studies or getting good grades. So, I need some motivation. I wanna know if grades really matter when I look for job in future. Any suggestions? Someone in need of motivation :(
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thapap
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Posted on 12-12-05 11:21
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its lyk a label in ur forehead (O: . Its a good thing to have. If you have a bad one it hurts. [ if u ever think of applying to GRAD SCHOOL then it definitely matters] fresh grads usually gauged in terms of GPA. [ but once u have an experience then it does not matter that much]
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oys_chill
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Posted on 12-13-05 2:25
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Grades are pretty overrated, both for jobs and graduate school. I guess it also depends what discipline you are in. I think it is more about what you did than what you got? I do not know about other fields, but in life sciences, having prior research and lab experiences gives you hands down advantage over candidates who have 4.0 gpa. AND believe it or not, GRE is a mere formality. OF course, like thapap bro said above, it might hurt though if u do it poorly. SO, here's what I say: Slack off and enjoy your college life for you'll regret in grad school if u didn't :). Take some time off, have fun, sleep through classes and get back to studies. I mean..compared to Nepal's highschool, college is a piece of cake hoina ra? I wouldn't really worry about it if i were you. Thapap bro, any plans on going to the grill soon? i need some time off...haven't seen outside world for some time :).
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KaLaNkIsThAn
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Posted on 12-13-05 4:26
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Don't know about grad-schools but for the jobs, grades are pretty over-rated. Afterall, like they say, to get a job, it's not what you know but it's who you know. so, there. Kun grill ko kura garya ho?? If the two guys are talkin' about grill in the winter-time that means something. :D Know what I mean? :P
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ladyinred
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Posted on 12-13-05 4:27
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In High School grades are far more important than learning. Almost any kid would rather walk out of a class with an A and not know anything than a B and nail the subject down. But once you get into the real world, you'll realize that your precious grades didn't mean as much as you want it to be. Grades do matter in some contexts. Graduate schools look unfavorably on poor grades, and that may limit your career choices and therefore, income. I infer that people who tend to make these ridiculous judgment calls about those with less-than-good grades (especially when they're not doing the hiring and aren't in any position to be judging these people) are more concerned with massaging their own egos than really deciding what's pragmatic. You'll very, very seldom see grades come into the equation when looking for a job unless you're applying for a position that is tailored to candidates coming right out of college. In the vast majority of other cases, they consider work accomplishments first and foremost, since this is what the candidate actually did in his or her field of work.( Then again, if you want to pursue higher education, you should have worked on your grades.) This should be a no-brainer and I think the question at this stage is one of motivation. My grades are important to me, but my ego is satisfied just by getting them, not by letting the whole world know about it.
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sanjays
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Posted on 12-13-05 7:17
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Higher GPA, Masters Degree with over 3.9 GPA and yrs or experience don't tend to give people jobs nowadays, unless they know people around. Employer who are hiring are looking for cheap labor - It is frustrating world out there - job market is shallow. One has to be happy with what they have regardless of degree - because they don't wanna pay you what you deserve - they are looking for people from the street who can be taught with minimum wages. It is frustrating world but I am happy with what I have complished? Good luck to you all...
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Cerine
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Posted on 12-13-05 8:18
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good GPA MEANS your RESUME is not trashed the first second they receive it
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KaLaNkIsThAn
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Posted on 12-13-05 8:21
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>>Good GPA MEANS your RESUME is not trashed the first second they receive it REALLY? :D
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Cerine
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Posted on 12-13-05 8:37
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nah... just thought i throw that out there to make everyone panic
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KaLaNkIsThAn
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Posted on 12-13-05 8:41
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No? You Liar. Your pants on fire. :D Okay, so if you mean your statement is false, can I assume "Poor GPA means my resume is not thrashed the first second they recieve it?" [They will thrash it before the first second... ] haaaaaaaa. ooooo!!!
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Cerine
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Posted on 12-13-05 8:53
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YOU ARE ALLOWED TO THINK ANYTHING !! DID YOU WANNA GIVE YOURSELF A HEART ATTACK OR YOUR INTENTION IS FOR THE OTHERS :-P
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KaLaNkIsThAn
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Posted on 12-13-05 9:14
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Ufff, somebody teach some of these girls {SOME of these = not all the girls} the true meaning of netiquette. HERE -----> Double Click the word in the square bracket ---> [ netiquette ]. Got no intention whatsoever. Neither good nor bad... :P Heartattack re, aha, try me. :) Been there, gone thru that several times :D:D:D... ah, got the heart all braced up... :D Silawar ko taar le, ke bhanthaanya?
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IndisGuise
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Posted on 12-13-05 9:23
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Dutchy_bunch, Grades? One word: Overrated. Really! Anything above 3.0 is a very decent grade. But to have 3.5 or 3.9 does not hurt either. There are some companies which require you to have a minimum GPA if you are fresh off the university. Personally, I was NEVER asked for my grades in ANY interview. And after some experience people hardly even mention your degree in your resume, let alone the grades. So the conclusion is stop worrying. Now on the lighter note: If you've mustered anything above 3.5 to 4.0 for now and have 4 more semesters to go, I would literally stop appearing for exams, attending classes, and doing assignments. I mean you worked your ass off for the first four, now it's about time you should let it go.;) Have you experienced the magic of getting D? And those couple of Cs. Ah! Really, it's like one of those roller coasters, once you go downhill, you would literally hate going up again. It is that much fun. I am bitterly disappointed I never experienced the joie de vivre of a failing grade.I detest it still. Maybe I still have time for my future endeavours.Touche! And oh I heard this somewhere years ago, but unfortunately it hit me just recently. 'Motivation is what gets one started; habit is what gets one going.' Too late for me to make any difference, but might just work for you. Off the topic really... Good luck! IndisGuise:)
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Posted on 12-13-05 9:35
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well you know now that it is important enough that you would post about it here:)
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Quest
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Posted on 12-13-05 9:44
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Dutchy_Bunch" It seems like you just need a final semester as a motivational factor for studies. LOL! I would say maintain your grades. It does not hurt mentioning your accomplishment like Cum Laude, Magna Cum Laude or Summa Cum Laude on your CV rather than those mere numbers as GPA. While applying for a job, they did not ask me for a GPA, but I mentioned few honors I received during my college years as of "Laude" things and the member of bla,bla association, or the president or vp of bla bla organization. In the United States, they look for other areas besides your grades. A friend of mine did her undergrad in philosophy, but she is doing her MD now, which according to her was a plus point among many pre-med candidates. Sure, she might have aced that major. Just focus on what you are doing! Best of Luck Q
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ashu
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Posted on 12-13-05 10:47
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On a general note: The more self-confident a society is -- say, the US -- the more it views grades as only ONE of the MANY ways to judge you for grad school success and for eventual career or life success. A Bill Gates or a Colin Powell or a Steve Jobs or even a Dick Cheney (a Yale drop-out) can go on to be what they are today ONLY in the US, and nowhere else on the planet. Self-confident societies value production of knowledgge, and not production of grades. But the less self-confident a society is -- say, Nepal -- all it ever obsesses about is grades, grades and grades. That's one reason why, judging by the SLC results alone, failures outnumber successes in our country. And we value production of grades and not production of knowledge. And that's one more reason why, 35 years later, Babu Ram, the Maoist neta, is still held in awe in many circles in Nepal for his high SLC grades of 1970. No one else care much about Babu Ram's high school grades in more self-confident societies. And I continue to meet plenty of older Nepalis, who still talk about their college friends in terms of "percentage" those friends had obtained at AsCol or TC or where ever else eons ago . . . as if those people had achieved NOTHING of significance in life in all the intervening years. *** That said, study hard and study well in college -- NOT for the grades (though high grades are always perferable to lower ones), BUT for the sheer intrinsic joy of learning and for the joy of finding things out. Pragamatically, times are changing so fast that the ability to learn fast and more than others is the only competitive advantage anyone can have these days for better careers and happier lives and successful jobs ahead. So, learn to learn so that you can earn. oohi ashu
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Posted on 12-13-05 10:53
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::Anything above 3.0 is a very decent grade:: Correction: Anything above 3.0 is a decent grade for undergraduate programs only. For graduate programs, only grades above 3.5 is considered good.
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dutchy bunch
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Posted on 12-13-05 12:12
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Thanks a lot to everyone for your valuable inputs. I think grades are overrated too. My GPA right now is somewhere around 3.5 which is I think is good looking at the amount of effort I put in my studies. But most of my friends have 4.0 which makes me feel inferior sometimes.. maybe I should start hanging out with less smart ppl.. hehe..
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Posted on 12-13-05 12:21
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How important is the $$$$ you are spending to get that Grade ? Why the fug are u in school ? Even for a MORON, asking this question is idiotic. Why do you have to have sex with a female human being, why don't you go have sex with a Donkey. ha ha ha
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IndisGuise
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Posted on 12-13-05 2:42
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As it appeared, I was strictly speaking in terms of undergrad programs. You can not even graduate if you have 2.99 GPA for grad programs. 3.0 is the minimum requirement. So there!!! However there are few concentrations where they do not have grading system at all. (For grad programs) Dutchy_bunch, Not all smart people have brilliant grades. Neither every student earning excellent grade are smart. However, the correlation between the "two" might be more positive than the one between "dumb students and excellent grades." Also, One can always interchange "smart" with "hardworking" (includes studious). These "hardworking" people have the best correlation with brilliant grades. Just go to some bar and drink yourself silly so that you may stop thinking silly. There are other thousands of people with better grades and millions have worse than yours. If 3.5 bothers you, the other choice like I said is, stop attending classes, deliberately flunk in exams and make sure you earn couple of Cs and if possible, Ds and drop down close to 3.0. There in lies your happiness. ;) So long! IndisGuise:)
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