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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 6:27
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I saw a thread somewhere where one Paramendra is encouraging people to donate $100 for some kind of movement involving terrorists. Perhaps all of part of that money will be funneled towards buying more bullets and guns for the terrosists so that more and more villagers can be intimidated and killed. It will also help them to loot even more food from innocent villagers by threat. I think the person is Paramendra Bhagat as far as I have understood. Correct me if I am wrong here. Well done Mr. Bhagat. All peace loving Nepalese will remember this for a long time to come.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-05-05 6:35
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How do you define someone or a group as a "terrorist". Is there a universally accepted method or a formula or a criteria to standardize or grade someone or an organization as terrorists ?
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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 6:38
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Khabadi, suteko manche lai uthauna sajilo huncha, tara suteko acting gareko lai uthauna garo huncha. Tyasai gari, bujhera pani bujh pachaune tapai jasta lai bujhaune prayas garnu ma jaruri thandina.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:05
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well then lets say ... do you see PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) as a terrorist organization or a freedom fighter ? If you can see the history of PLO. PLO has done bad and good acts like undesirable acts of terror as well as a pressure group to grant self-rule to the people of Palestine since 1960s.
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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:14
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The question as to what PLO is is irrlevant here.
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ShriyaK
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:18
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suteko manche lai uthauna sajilo huncha, tara suteko acting gareko lai uthauna garo huncha lol, bhoonte, your saying made me laugh. really. I will try to use this saying when I find suitable situation.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:18
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Allmost all Tamil people know the acts of LTTE yet most Tamil people will alwayts see LTTE as a freedom fighter rather than a terrorist group. Most Palestinian people know about the acts of PLO yet Palestinian people will always see PLO as a freedom fighter rather than a terrorist group. And there are so many other examples in every corners of the world and the Maoists are simply one of those example caught in the crossfire of label as "terrorist" or "freedom fighter".
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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:23
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Take the religion out of Palestine and then ask that question to yourself.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:24
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The question of PLO becomes relevent here because PLO has done good and bad acts in the past that are no different than those of the Maoists. IF you think the question of PLO is irrelvant here then so is your notion of "terrorist"
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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:24
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Again, we are talking about someone encouraging financial support towards terrorists in Nepal.
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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:27
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The case of palestines and jews is basically a religious one, or rather anun religious chaos. Dont try to draw a parallel here.
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Bhoonte
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Posted on 12-05-05 7:28
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Nepaali
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Posted on 12-05-05 8:49
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Bhoonte, You have a right to your opinions but, I doubt vitriol is the best means to make your point. The $100 the Paramdendra is asking for is to help defray the costs of the movement for the restoration of democracy in Nepal--so when you say that the money is going to Terrorists, you are obviosuly stating that the parties are terrorists. Here's the problem with that equation: Democracy and Terrorism are very different ideals...like I said, Vitriol may be an easy thing to resort to but take time to make a proper distinction.
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M.P.
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Posted on 12-05-05 9:19
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Everyone knows who is using taxpayer's money to buy weapons, diverting resources from education and health to buy guns or helicopters! Paramendra Bhagat makes an effort to raise money so that peace can be established, precisely so that the at-will use of force and misuse or resources stops and our Bhoonte is frustrated. It will never be in the interest of the top army officials, King and his cronies to solve the Maoist problem. That's why they hate the democrats so much. They hate the democrats because they are worried the democrats might fix the problem. And they have been losing sleep ever since the Maoists and the parties formed an alliance. All I have to say is this: do what you think is right. Only time will tell what's right and what's wrong. If you feel so strongly about what you say, why don't YOU make an effort to raise money for the RNA so that the money currently being diverted away from development expenditure can be brought back to where it should be spent? Can you do that? No. That's why you bitch here, posting on every thread, minutes after minutes, labeling everyone who opposes you as Maoist. That's the best you can do. If wanting peace and freedom in Nepal means being a Maoist, I will rather be called so than kiss somebody's ass or be used as the state's propaganda machine. I am sure Paramendra will prefer to be called a Maoist, too, if he had to choose between wanting freedom (and beling labelled a Maoist, or terrorist, as your creative dictionary allows) and being a bhakta of the king! It's one thing to oppose the political parties. Sure enough, they proved incompetent in the past. But it's another to blindly support the king and oppose everything that democrats are doing, inside and outside the country.
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III_II_I_II_III
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Posted on 12-05-05 9:33
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So, what are you M.P.? Paramendra's 50% partner in this venture?? Either of you are no different than the King, Parties, Maoists...they are all in for the $$$ in this game. Everyone of u have their own way of extorting and justifying it.
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Posted on 12-05-05 10:47
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My friend Puru Subedi emailed me the URL to this thread saying there was a thread at Sajha about me. I came and looked. He was mistaken. This seems to be a thread about Prabhakaran and Arafat. So adios. On the other hand, if a discussion flares up about this, http://www.geocities.com/paramendra/nepal1000.html I will be happy to answer questions and clear up misunderstandings. Holler.
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M.P.
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Posted on 12-05-05 11:26
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II_III......, If you take time to read the details on Paramendra's web, you'll see that, while this might have been his idea, people supporting him do have some credibility. Not sure if you know them. But I do know some of them and I would trust them with my $100, if I had it (I am Mahadev myself at the moment, so I will have to wait before I can make a donation, whatever modest amount it will be). I am not Paramendra's 50% partner in this business. No thank you. I have a decent, 8:30-5:30 job, where I get to do almost exactly what I wanted to do before I graduated. So, if there I am to ever get involved in Paramendra's what you call "business", the most that I do is send a check with "for democracy in nepal" written on on the memo, next to the signature. If you ask me, I have rejected his ACTUAL business in the past, in many cases even openly discouraging others to participate in his business, but since this is NOT a business and it's for a good cause -- at least from my perspective -- I am providing a moral support. That's all. You are free to interpret everything the way you want.
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highfly
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Posted on 12-05-05 11:38
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Quixtar - Pyramid schme. I have seen the very money minded people in it.
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Posted on 12-06-05 12:07
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माओबादीलाई नै कसैले चन्दा दिन्छ भने मेरो केही गुनासो छैन किनभने माओबादीका कतिपय मुद्धाहरु सँग म सहमत छु ।माओबादीले पनि अन्तत: निम्नवर्गीय नेपालीकै हित गर्न लडेका हुन्। तर यो प्रसँगमा उल्लेखित स्पष्ट साम्प्रदायिक तत्व हरुलाई पोषण गर्ने हरु प्रति भने मेरि धिक्कार छ है । नेपाललाई भारतले सिक्किम बनाउला अथवा नेपाल प्रदेश बनाउला भन्ने डर हैन, सिक्किम त बरु ठीकै छ, त्यो भन्दा ठूलो डर त नेपाललाई भारतले बिहार बनाउछ कि भन्ने हो । र केही दिन अघि देख्न-सुन्न पाईएको थियो (उहाँको लालु-रावडीदेबी सँग बिषेश सम्बन्ध पनि छ रे, उहाँले नै भन्नु हुन्थ्यो त्यही भिडियोमै), नेपालमा मधेसी-मूलका मानिसहरुको सँख्या पुरै जनसँख्याको ५० प्रतिशत भन्दा बढी छ रे, सुनेको कुरा हो बिहारको जनसँख्या पनि त्यस्तै १४-१५ करोड छ रे । याद गरौँ साथीहरु, कतै तपाईँको १०० डलर बिहारी हरुलाई नेपालमा "ग्रीनकार्ड" दिने कामको लागि खर्च त हुँदैन ? Keep rolling...
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highfly
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Posted on 12-06-05 12:13
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