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rosynp
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Posted on 08-02-07 2:22
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In Australia, you experience a unique kind of education - a learning style that encourages innovative, creative, independent thinking. You build skills to give you an advantage - academically personally and professionally. The Australian education system is distinguished from many other countries by the Australian Qualification Framework (AQF). The AQF is a national system established by the Australian Government that links course and qualifications. It covers University, Vocational and technical education and School education more details on http://www.merostudy.com
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JavaBeans
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Posted on 08-07-07 5:28
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I really don't get what one's nationality/ethnicity has to do with getting a job- Niravana, do employers immediately reject you because you identify yourself as Nepalese, or is it b/c you have not yet attained the fine qualities an employer is looking for? A degree in US/Australia will only get you one step closer to geting a job- it does NOT guarantee it. You need to have the attributes I described earlier if you are a fresh graduate, or some yrs of work experience (depending on the level you are applying for) if you are looking to join a firm as an experienced hire. Australia has the presence of almost all Fortune 500 (which includes a lot of US employers). Take a look at some popular job sites below, as evidence of this: http://seek.com.au/ http://mycareer.com.au/ http://www.jobserve.com.au/homepage.aspx http://jobs.efinancialcareers.co.uk/Australia.htm If you've worked in the US or Australia it's really easy to make the switch- the corporate environment is synonymous. And there's is absolutely no difference in the way HR (Human Resources) operates in the interviewing process in either of the countries. All you have to have are those qualities I mentioned above, and with the positive attitude and some wittiness the world is your oyster! DO NOT ever blame your Nepalese heritage for not attaining your life/career aspirations. Cheers! -JB
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Posted on 08-07-07 6:52
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Nirvana Australias economy is less then india because of indian population . Add the income of al the indians it becomes greater than australia. But that doenot mean indians earn more than australians. Compare the income of an average individual in australia and india you will see a huge daylight.
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Riten
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Posted on 08-07-07 7:05
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Hey Javabeans, It seems you have some experience working in Australia. Care to share how it was, how you did it, why you did it... anything to shed some light on this matter of finding employment and being employed in Downunder. By the by, were you not in the US earlier? How has the transition been? Looking forward to read your posting(s). Thanks. -R
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Posted on 08-07-07 9:34
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..Javabeans I am not blaming Nepalese heritage for not attaining one's life/career aspirations. Only thing I was saying was Its lot easier to get corporate jobs in US than in Australia for any foreign Nationals. since u had a US experience it was easier for you, but that wont be case for every individuals. As you know most of Fortune 500 companies are from US, obviously there will be lots of US Employers.
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Posted on 08-07-07 10:08
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I totally agree with Niravana. Australia is a great country but they still got a lot to learn...from US. Most of the good jobs are reserved for white Australians. They are very proud of their land and want immigrants to do the low jobs. I was there for 2 yrs but 10 yrs ago. I am very glad I came to the US. If I had stayed in Aus I guess I wld be still stuck where I was 10 yrs ago!
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Posted on 08-07-07 2:28
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very much agree wid the fact said by nirvana n' greenfly......as far as ive seen the people i know.. n' they got the situation which is not satisfactory for them...beside may only some people like above who r defendin"....
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NIRAVANA75062
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Posted on 08-07-07 2:31
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Javabeans, do you use to live in Sana fe area before u went to down under.
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Posted on 08-07-07 3:09
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Nice to hear about Australia in Sajha kurakani. I agree that Australia has a smaller economy but the job market is not as bad as somebody has mentioned above. The unemployment rate is less than 3%. I've been here since only last two years and working in IT sector here. Would like to share what I've seen so far. The IT jobs are filled with Asians. Mostly Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Philipinos and . . . Indians as well. I rarely see "white Australian people" in these jobs.And I don't agree with greenfly that "Australians want immigrants to do the low jobs".
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Posted on 08-08-07 12:25
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Not Bad ideas hahahah thank you sajha
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Posted on 08-08-07 9:18
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Oz bro G'day Finding a good job ( the job you qualified for) in Aus is like finding a needle. You are very lucky that you got a good job in your own field but if you look around in our own nepali circle you may be able to see the true picture. Many (most) of the qualified people are not finding the jobs they have studied in the uni or have experience from Nepal.
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Posted on 08-08-07 10:16
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WELL, What is the major reason for not getting jobs now a days in aus. is this becasue of overpopulation or little work. This is very much crucial matter and need to think all new interested student who are on the planning to go to aus. Thank you very much..
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Posted on 08-09-07 7:47
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Rosynp, It is both. You should do some more research before you come down or send someone. Population is increasing day by day and I don't think the good jobs are created with its pace. Even when we have negligible contribution to the population growth of Aus, you'll find atleast one nepali within 5 minutes after you go out of your house in most popular suburbs of Syd. So, just think of migrants/students from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China etc.
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Posted on 08-09-07 10:45
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HOW EASY IT MIGRATE TO AUSTRALIA FROM USA? EASY TO FIND JOB OR NOT AFTER MIGRATING.................?
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JavaBeans
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Posted on 08-10-07 9:43
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Hello Riten, I won't blabber about myself too much- I will be as concise as I can. I am a Technology/Management Consultant for a Tier 1 US-based consulting company. The type of work I do allows me to travel a lot. So, when I first came to Oz I could immediately feel the cosmopolitan vibe of Melbourne, but didn't quite feel at home (as in the US)- the accent is different, they drive on the left side, etc. But, that lasted only until I made some really nice friends and gotten to know the system better. For me this was rather an easy transition because I've spent a lot of time in the US (grew up there), and except for those couple of things I mentioned earlier the environment is pretty much the same. The lifestyle here is really laid back (albeit in Consulting the hours are as long). I am not sure which sector you work in, or what academic qualification(s) you have. Getting a job here really boils down to your experience and education. They also have a very strict, but a reasonably open immigration policy- that is if you qualify under a point system then you can migrate. Essentially, you will need to think about how you will qualify for this if your end goal is to find a job here. This might help- Having target=_blank>http://www.immi.gov.au/ Having lived in different parts of the US I can tell you that if you've been in the US for some time (5+ yrs) and have a US degree (more top tier the merrier) you will fit right in. Otherwise, you could apply as a student. Let us know how you go. -JB
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Posted on 08-10-07 10:40
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JB is one of the very few who got good thing to say regarding employment oppurtunity in Aus. JB, were you relocated by your company in US? I have been thinking about relocating to Aus last couple years. From that contacts I have in Aus, none of them suggested me to move. I must have sent around 40 resumes last few months and no response so far :=) JB, will certification from Vendors like HP, ISC, Cisco, MS be any help to land IT jobs there? And if you any of you need more info regarding General Skilled Migration I be happy to help them. It will anywhere form 9-15 months to get the PR if you are qualified.
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Posted on 08-10-07 11:16
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I wasn't relocated- I joined the firm after I moved here temporarily. And I intend to return in a couple of years BTW. I am not sure if the certification will help, but experience will. You need to be the best of the breed if you intend to land something from overseas. That reminds me- an example would be a colleague who recently joined our team; he's from the US, who's got a MBA from Wharton and had been working for Bain Capital for about 3 years. Sorry, the work I do is not entirely Technology- I do a lot of strategy work within mgmt consulting. My suggestion for you would be to come here on a visitor visa (I came here twice before I decided that I'd want to work here), and get a feel of the place before making a decision- this way you could also get an opportunity to talk to companies of your choice. Good luck.
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Posted on 08-10-07 11:37
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Thanks for the info JB. I will check the sites you had mentioned previously. I am planning to be there later this year. I want to see it firsthand. I was planning to see if I can setup meeting before my visit but it seems there is a slim chance for it happening. I won't stop sending resumes though Thanks again
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Posted on 08-10-07 12:20
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Thanks Java Beans. I was in Australia as a visitor for few weeks couple of years ago and absolutely loved the place. I got the impression that everything is new and in the process of being built in Australia, and I don't mean just the buildings. I imagine that was how it was in the US back in 50's. Everything up and coming. It also seemed to me that there are lots of opportunities there. But when I hear sad stories of fellow Sajhaites, I wonder if I was wee bit too naive in my observations. but I think JB is right, in a sense that if you have the right qualifications, you will do well no matter where. It is true in the US, why should it not be true in Oz. I am pretty good at what I do - IT Management - and have sufficient experience/qualifications to pass the immigration hurdle and get a job in Australia (I hope I don't come off as an arrogant SOB, if I do, I apologize, that is not my intention). But the question that nags me is would it be worth it, monetarily? Note, I said monetarily because otherwise Australia is a fabulous place to live and raise a family. On that note, here's one more questions to Java Beans. What about payscale? Is it comparable to that of US? Would a person, if offered similar jobs in similar type of companies in say... Melbourne and New York, get offered salaries in the same ball park?
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Posted on 08-11-07 11:53
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Having lived in Australia for a fair amount of time and now working I can probably give you guys some pointers on Australia. From what I have gathered from American friends the opportunities in Australia is fairly limited as compared to the US, however, the quality of life is much better. Even though you may not progress to that highly paid six figure package (well you still can but i speak in very general terms) there is a much higher quality of life. Like JavaBeans said Australia is a very laid back country and in terms of work-life balance its a place where there is an importance place on quality life (in terms of health care, social welfare etc...). I personally believe that Australia is a good place for those that are now planning on settling down and thinking about the future (child's education, health care etc...). In terms of job prospects... there is a market for technically qualified workers like the accountants, engineers, finance and also IT professionals (but it really depends on what IT sector your in). If you have experience in the US sector it is highly regarded, however, there is more job availability in some of the lesser known cities like Perth or Brisbane than Sydney. In the end its all dependant on individual circumstances but this is a very general kind of overview and I do hope its helped to some extent
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Posted on 08-21-07 8:28
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I think what it boils down to is 'standard of living'. For example, if your pay in NY is higher than in Melbourne it doesn't necessarily mean that you are better off. If the fundamental necessities- housing, food, clothing, health clubs, etc. are much higher in NY then your savings could suffer. My firm adjusts its pay according to where you live, so in real terms you should end up with the similar savings no matter where you live. In general rates are competitive for both finance and IT professionals. Some general examples: grads start @ AUS $51K, 3-6 yrs exp AUS $65K - $110K. Keep in mind these are only for finance and IT ppl. I would suggest sending a resume to one of the recruiters here- they should provide you with some ball park figures.
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