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many
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Posted on 07-22-06 11:47
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through these years the history we are forced upon are fake not representing Nepal or Nepalese, all the date era described in the books are either of Kathmandu valley or Gorkha. before prithvi Narayan captured Kathmandu it was based on Kathmandu only after his so called unification the next place is Gorkha and than it comes back to Kathmandu valley. so does this mean other places beside these two doesn't have history? we know little bit about other places like Palpa Butwal or Nuwakot only because of the presence of shah king. isn't it high time other places got their names in the history books? just a thought
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Posted on 07-24-06 5:03
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Yo lurray ko kura pani ke bhanne? Tyo mythology bhanne ta duniya ma jun desh ma pani hunchha ni, Pied Piper, Hercules, Sindbad ko katha padheko chhaina saano ma? History ra mythology pani ekai hunchha? Jesus le koriharu lai chhuna saathai rog niko paareko, kisna le kanchhi aunla le pahad uchaleko ustai ustai ho, haina ra? he he.
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Posted on 07-24-06 8:40
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i ain't taking about equal oppertunity being provided in the books in US what i am saying is everybody has their says in the history book and it's still changing. like till 3 years ago Thomas Jefferson was seen as one of the founding fathers, now he's seen as a slave owner too and people are digging their way in the history. similarly it has to be done in nepal too, every regional history has to have their place in history. maybe if we dig up we might get chance to see how prithivi narayan shah had really unfied nepal and was it worth it for his kins? or why didn't nepalese do anything when rana bahadur's evil deeds was sweeping the country. etc.
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KaleKrishna
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Posted on 07-24-06 10:00
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History in Nepal should be written from time period phase wise, first the origin of the land, mountains, nation since any linkable resources. Put in key major incidences of the decade, incorporating and encompasing all Nepalese within and without, like world wars, migration during British colonism, till now. Cite, significant social, economic and cultural incidences and contribuiters, with a brief about his/her introduction. Cite the villians and their misdeeds and efforts to rectify them. Top view dissection will be better reflection of history than arranging sweep up approach, my 1 and 1/2 cents.
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Posted on 07-25-06 3:49
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Here no one is claiming that Only one sided history be written but our fundamental problem is lack of information. For example, Yesterday, I read one Article from merosansar about Pashupati Nath Temple, Pashupathinath Temple has historical significance but we do not know that how much economical benefits palace will get from that temple. may be some money will be siphoned off from that temple and in the past may be sent by Kings and bhardars to outside to make outsider's happy........I mean we have to start digging facts.
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Posted on 07-25-06 12:03
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Gentlemen, I just goggled history of Magar and found lots of things. if there was no history of Magras how come all those things appear in Google? there are books the basic book is "Mechi dekhi Mahakali" it gives some basic idea about different tribes of nepal. and there is also a book written by Yogi Naraharinath. Anyway just by Goggling you will come to know so many things about "Magars" and so is about other cast. So please do research before writing something, it helps The information about different ethnicity may not be available in depth. General information is good enough for ordinary people who want to know in general. If you want to know in depth about different ethnic groups of Nepal (I think there are about 100 different ethnic groups in Nepal) and if there is no books available the best thing I believe is to select that field for you future study, one can do PhD in any ethnic group and if you are already done with study you can finance the study or start PhD programme on it or announce some monitory award whomever write the book about the ethnicity of your concern. Please don’t dictate that the kids in school need to study in depth history. They just need to learn general history; mostly they need to learn is science, mathematics and management so that they can compete with the world. And for those who are not interested in those fields they can choose history (or any other subject) and I believe it must be world history with reference to the ethnic groups. but this have limited job market. If you are a middle age person and have kids and if you are so much interested in ethnic history you may try to pursue your kids to study history, if he/she agrees. History is important; it tells how our forefathers lived. But it is not important than your survival at present. If you don’t know the history of some ethnic group you can survive but if you don’t have basic qualification to survive the present, history won’t save you. And, if you believe in science we all evolved from amoeba (single celled organism) then some sort of monkey (may be one or different species, I don’t remember) we know the history of monkey and amoeba don’t we. If you believe in god, its all because of god we don’t need to worry. For me personally I may be interested in history when I am old I don’t know yet, at present I am competing with different ppl in the field of science I need to know more of modern things rather than history. I don’t want to live by knowing what happened in the past rather I want to live by knowing how I can manage the future. It is getting too lengthy I better stop here. Thanks
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Posted on 07-25-06 3:47
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Too much of Nepalese history documents kings and battles. It is obvious Nepal has a rich history or art and culture. I hope historians and academics concentrate on them in the future.
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dharane kta
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Posted on 08-03-06 8:40
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history ma kina tension ..malai sodha na tell me something abt history ma answer pani history mai dinchu. geet nai cha malai baaaal matlab malai baal matlab. oh yeah sathi ho yo geet cha bhane bhana la sarai chaiyeko cha. impressed chu k yo geet bata
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Posted on 08-03-06 9:12
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dharane bro yestai "malai baal matlab" bhaneko bhayeranai deshko haalat yesto bhayeko ho, hoina ra?
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Posted on 08-03-06 10:46
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bornfree must be an immigrant who has just landed and a freshman or sophomore....i have seen couple of friends of mine who were born in nepal and did thier schooling as well. they know a lot about their history. I know a lot of history of nepal as well even though i did not get opportunity to nepalese history.. it all depends on interest...
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JaiHindu
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Posted on 08-03-06 10:47
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immigrants always show that they are immigrants....shameful activities......dont know nepalese history.. who appreciates the lack of knowledge??
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Posted on 08-03-06 11:15
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i think bornfree did his schooling in singapore...i don't think they teach nepalese history over there....
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Posted on 08-03-06 11:25
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In fact.... In all Nepali school and university books, Baburam Acharya only wrote Nepali history about Shaha and Rana to get promotion and award from Ruling class or Regime. Exectly like above discussion ... Kathmandu valley, Nuwakot, Gorkha, Prithavi narayan Saha, Jung Bahadur Rana etc. Nepali history must be Re-done or Re-write and officially publish as well as teach in school and universities of Nepal. Currently... We do not know Nepali Actual and real history... because it is not in school and Universtiy books. Even most of the master degree level nepali students and Nepali college, University professor do not know more than 70% Nepali actual history.
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Posted on 08-03-06 11:48
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ho many bro. desh saya barsa pachi parisakecha hahaha hasnu ta kei haina yo kura ma dukha ko kura ho tara cry handera k kam. history kina khodelne baru samskriti khodala. history le kei didaina. kala samskriti follow gara. tei bhara ta malai baal matlab bhanne geet bata impressed chu. shah rana bhaneko pani tei manche hami pani tei manche..tini haru pani chet huncha hami pani. kina kura garera hero banaune. tara shah rana bhanera gali garnu pani hunna sabai tyesto hunna. aru chai pheri bhani halchu..aba yo pali malai baal matlab haina "hamilai baal matlab"
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Posted on 08-05-06 3:19
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Badar, Kukur, Biralo, Musa, Bheyguta, Chara, Surpa lai po history ko matalab dhudai na. Hami ta manche ho tesai le history, saskriti, dharma, desh, bhasa khojanu parney hucha.... Ra Manche bhaye pachi manche hunu lai yo kura haru hunu atinai awasak cha... Natra bhaney toyo manche hoina jangali pashu huchaaa. Pashu lai itihas chahidaina.
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Posted on 08-05-06 3:30
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hare ram hare krishna. people talking about me behind my back. alright its true dat i do not know nepali history due to many reason. how you expect a person to study history of nepal when he is a nepali illerate. and i agree with everything dude cause i believe history of nepal is false. most of the truths and origin of nepal has not been recorded. and it's not important that you know nepali history. afterall who knows nepal once you are out of nepal.
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Posted on 08-06-06 4:59
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It is the most important that you must know Nepal history. If you do not know Nepal history .... you are not suitable person for Nepali government officer position, Army officers, Police Senior officers, Political member.... or just even qualify for sajha discussion. What you know about Nepal and what you are going to say about Nepal?
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Posted on 08-07-06 6:26
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Do not you that? " No history No human " Where did you born? Did you born from pine tree or from pig? We need to know history. It is the most important for human society and civilization.
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Posted on 08-08-06 3:13
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Posted on 08-09-06 2:34
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what do you mean i need to know nepal history. Is it that so important? Afterall nepal history is not complete and most of it is based on a lie.
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Posted on 08-09-06 3:55
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yes, it is true that Nepal history is not complete. Nepali history cover just to Shah, Rana, Thakuri, Kathmandu, patan, kirtipur and bhaktapur. There is a shameful huge gap Ancient time of Nepal, Nepal 13th century to 17th century history. Baburam Acharya just fullfill to Shah and Rana to get Award and Honor from them. If you ask Nepal history to Nepalese people who did in Master Degree in Nepal history and PHD, they will flunk about Ancient history and Medival time 13-17th century Nepal history. Because they just read a book of Baburam Acharya. So they lost 70% Nepali history education even they claim as a high educated people. It is Shame.....
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