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San
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Posted on 07-05-06 11:18
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A little over a month I posted this thread: http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=32015 Back then, I thought this was some isolated incidents that would go away on its own. Unfortunately, instead of going away, it's becoming more of a common theme in the sajha kurakani. An individual can be bad. An individual can do condemnable acts. But we cannot condemn the whole group because of the acts of one or few people of the same group. As we look at history of our country, groups of people have been discriminated against. Kamis, sarkis and many other such castes have been segregated to never be able to live up to their potentials. In this day and age everyone needs to have the opportunity to shine at what he/she is good at. I think it is conceited and wrong for anyone to think that a certain caste should not be able to do certain things. Most of us who visit this site are educated, yet, we take advantage of the anonimity provided by the internet to thrash other groups. Other groups which consist of individuals. Individuals who do not fit the stereotypes. As we look back at the history of Nepal. We have always been divided into separate castes. It has always been in the rulers best interest to divide and rule. Even the British used the 'divide and rule' policy to rule over India. We have just recently earned 'democracy' (which is still in it's conception stage), and it's a perfect time for us to do away with the caste system that divides us. We, are individuals firstly, and then we are Nepalis. It's a perfect time to move on to the 21st century and do away with a tradition that tries to determine your fate according to your birth. We should judge a person by his/her individual achievements rather than branding someone according to his/her birth family. I'm a little tired after coming back from the ANA today so please accept my apologies if I have not been very coherent. The main thing I want to say is that caste discrimination is not going to go away on it's own. We cannot simply ignore it and say that it's part of life. We have to do something about it, and we can all start by NOT practicing this in sajha. Please join me in declaring sajha a site where we do not discriminate on the basis of castes. This will be enforced. As responsible members, I hope you will help by notifying admin@sajha.com if and when these kinds of topics rear their ugly heads. More on the ANA and more photos coming soon...
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Serah
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Posted on 10-18-06 7:40
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I totally agree. Thank you san. That was a very good move!! SerAh X0X0X
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sndy
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Posted on 10-18-06 10:47
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San, Whatever you're trying to do and have done is laudable. However, you can't stop these people and their way of thinking. They are showing their level of thinking, hoina ta?? It's their loss, not ours...
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Katmandude
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Posted on 10-18-06 11:06
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In my belief, caste discrimination in Nepal is nto going to go away overnight, rather fight against cast discrimination will have to fought over a long period of time. As Nepalese, caste and what it means is ingrained in our brains as we are growing up. How many times do kids growing up in either educated or uneducated famililies across nepal and abroad hear things like "falano le ta newar bihe garecha" or "falano le bahun bihe garecha"...."pariwar ko naak kaatecha" and stuff along that line. Just like the civil rights in the US is still an on going battle, our society which is even older by centuries and caste based social practises have been openly accepted and practised for eben longer, it won't just go away. There is no silver bullet. It will be hard fought long struggle that needs to be fought only if new generations of Nepalese are willing to fight and unfortunately I don't see that desire in the new generation either. As clearly evident in Sajha and in other daily activities, we talk just the way our fathers and forefathers talked. We have not changed all that much...so brace yourselves and spew your venom in Sajha rather than going out and killing your neighbours because they are from a different caste or sect just like they are doing in Iraq, former Yugoslavia, Ireland, India...I guess I will stop here.
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bgoreus
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Posted on 10-18-06 11:42
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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EkloKeta
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Posted on 10-18-06 11:50
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Hey San... Why is your thread always on the top of the Kura kani.......Isn't that discrimination to other users....Even thouigh they have new topic...they are behind your topic??? Are you trying to take advantage since its ur website....Its like Nepal ma minister le usko post ko advantage leko jasto..... I hope you wont be government official in the future......IO wonder what kind of advantage and how many advantage you will take from your post.... We all can see the symtopms...... Thanks you SAN...for discrimnating all of us...and teaching us baout discrimnations.....
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gurudev.
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Posted on 10-18-06 11:50
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STOP Discrimination, and mobbing
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EkloKeta
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Posted on 10-18-06 11:52
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SAN..I think you need yto stop lectureing about discrimination since you are the one who id adopting it.....Isn't that discrimination to the other users....that your topic is always on the top and even though other users has new topic....
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sajhauser
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Posted on 10-18-06 12:40
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EkloKeta, i think that you don't think :D
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gurudev.
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Posted on 10-18-06 12:58
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Why hate other, when you can love them.....
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bikash kc
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Posted on 10-18-06 4:38
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only we can condemn the racial talking........ guys cum on lets not be so racial man we all r nepalese after all char jat chhathis barna ko nepal
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Posted on 10-18-06 5:05
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I dont know the relevance of this article here. But it will give some insight into Nepal socio-cultural distribution. Maoist and other civil society have been advocating for Federal System. This article tries to understand Nepal's geopolitics and analyse pros- and cons- of Federal system. http://www.nepaldevelopment.com/CurrentIssue_SPokhrel_0906.htm
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nana4
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Posted on 10-18-06 10:58
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Hey dumb Nepalese cool dudes.... Talking about Race, Discrimination, Caste systems, Politics, Nepali Leaders, Social systems is the best talks in any place. So people can have oppertunities to UNDERSTAND each other and real life - reality - truth - real situation. These things and These matters give you free knowledge... so you do not have to pay. You do not get in your school books... Do you get it?
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Murkha123
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Posted on 10-19-06 6:25
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What do you mean? Are you from 17th century?
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govind882
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Posted on 10-19-06 6:35
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Of course no caste discrimination at all due to unity,development ,peace ,and humanrights. G.R.Pariyar
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Bhunte
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Posted on 10-20-06 7:18
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NO but racial elements are pervasive. They may be almost impossible to eradicate in this annonymous forum like Sajha. It is because you may continue to encounter neo Nazis or the mutation of the older ones. A "sticky notice" for this purpose may alleviate the racial issue here.
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Posted on 10-20-06 10:55
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Murkha123
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Posted on 10-21-06 10:04
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The only way to tackle badmouthing can be learnt from the following story. A Brahmin Story Author: Unknown Lord Buddha was sitting under a banyan tree. One day, a furious Brahmin came to him and started abusing him. The Brahmin thought that Buddha would reciprocate in the same manner, but to his utter surprise, there was not the slightest change in the expression on his face. Now, the Brahmin became more furious. He hurled more and more abuses at Buddha. However, Buddha was completely unmoved. Actually there was a look of compassion on his face. Ultimately the Brahmin was tired of abusing him. He asked, "I have been abusing you like anything, but why are you not angry at all ?" Lord Buddha calmly replied, "My dear brother, I have not accepted a single abuse from you." "But you heard all of them, didn't you?" The Brahmin argued half-heartedly. Buddha said, "I do not need the abuses, so why should I even hear them?" Now the Brahmin was even more puzzled. He could not understand the calm reply from Buddha. Looking at his disturbed face, Buddha further explained, "All those abuses remain with you." "It cannot be possible. I have hurled all of them at you," the Brahmin persisted. Buddha calmly repeated his reply, "But I have not accepted even a single abuse from you ! Dear brother, suppose you give some coins to somebody, and if he does not accept them, with whom will those coins remain?" The Brahmin replied, "If I have given the coins and not needed by someone, then naturally they would remain with me." With a meaningful smile on his face, Buddha said, "Now you are right. The same has happened with your abuses. You came here and hurled abuses at me, but I have not accepted a single abuse from you. Hence, all those abuses remain with you only. So there is no reason to be angry with you." The Brahmin remained speechless. He was ashamed of his behavior and begged for Buddha's forgiveness. Inner calmness and peace are keys to contented life. Seriousely, I am not sure why the Brahmin was furious with Buddha at that time
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Murkha123
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Posted on 10-21-06 10:06
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Therefore, Sajha Friends, let's learn from above story and live sajha-life peacefully and harmoniously.
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Murkha123
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Posted on 10-22-06 10:56
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I hope this will give some psychological support to bahuns. If you don't like, do not accept the abuses and it's lot better to keep silence.
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Murkha123
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Posted on 10-23-06 12:06
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It means Baburam/Prachanda turned their cadres into beggars or looters. WFP to provide food to Maoist fighters The United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) has floated a proposal of providing food to the Maoist fighters during the transition period. The Kantipur Daily quoted newly appointed residential representative of WFP Richard F Ragan as saying that the food will be available for the short term or long term. He further informed that there was policy related agreement to provide food to the people returning home following the peace process and armed groups after disarmament. Family members of such groups also fall in the category of receiving assistance. UNHCR, World Health Programme, WFP, Food and Agriculture Organization and Save the Children Fund are assisting in the process. Ragan further informed that over 225 thousand people of 10 districts of mid and far western development region benefited from the emergency food supply programme of WFP. He further informed that they are visiting eastern and western terai regions to assess the situation of fall in the production of food in the region, adding, "We will decide further assistance after the study." He further said that they will continue assistance to the Bhutanese refugees if they returned to Bhutan and added that they had informed it to the Bhutan government. nepalnews.com pb Oct 23 06
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