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Nepe
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Posted on 04-11-06 9:23
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The following report and pledge was received to Nepal Democracy Forum (google group) from one of it's member and a respected journalist in Kathmandu. My blood is boiling with the report of the massacre of pro-democracy demonstrators by the regime. I also feel a guilt as I have seen in the images of the protests comprising mostly youngsters from low and lower-middle class. The rich class (except for the professional groups) are still in their baithak watching TV. Let's open a "Sajha Fund for Loktantra-fighters" to help the victims of the regime's violence. "Nepal Democracy Forum" has already discussed about it and I am sure they will immediately proceed. Most probably, a fund will be set up at NAC or other umbrella organizations. We can contribute to that fund. But how about a Sajha fund ? Nepe > Dear all, > > Police and Armed Police Force have fired indiscriminately at the > protestors at Gangabu. Hundreds of people are injured. According to > unconfirmed reports over a dozen people have lost life. Most of these > people are poor and cannot afford treatment. I request all of you to > contribute some money for their treatment. Please, please help the poor > who are sacrificing their lives for democracy and freedom for all of us. > > Expecting to hear from all of you, soon. ____
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Posted on 04-11-06 8:54
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I want to see some leaders getting killed or injured. Then the intesity will increase. Other than that, its a cat and mouse game. About the this incident, I just read that people were throwing stones at AIG's house and someone from inside shot at those who were throwing stones. Come on... Why at homes.....???? If I was AIG I would have shot point blank to forehead. No question asked... If you want to protest go ahead. But why homes??? Innocent people live there. And if you have guts, go throw stones at palace... And also, poor people, naive are dying not the well to do. And definetely not the Leaders. And all of us in USA are just watching. We definitely are not going back. We are the watchers of the chess game...some other people are playing the game.....
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Posted on 04-11-06 9:13
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IFC, that message was for everyone. Everyone knows that leaders are corrupt. That doesn't mean that we should forget our citizen's duty. Leaders will be thrown on due time. Even KG will be thrown. Let see how long he lasts like this. Looking at the some of the pictures at Gongabu, we know that people need help there. They can't come all the way here to ask for our help. We should reach out to them. There is no question that the fund movement should be transparent but on the suspicion not to donate anything is not right. Gaff garna sabailai aunchha. Thulai kam garna nasake sano tara ramro kam garna hundaina? This is that kind of opportunity. If you help, you are great. If you don't want to help, just don't poison people's mind. After all, if you were one of those who got heavily beaten by the cop's cane till whole layer of your backskin came out, what would you think?
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Posted on 04-11-06 9:20
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arko waht i asked was for myself, not to poison people's mind. it was a simple straightforward qeustion. and the very reason i asked was because i was willing to donate some money and i just wanted to make sure it went to the right cause. i am not a consiparacy theorist. not once in my threads have i said i am not going to give because i am goddamn sure it will be misused. waht i asked HOW do i know or how do i esnure, for my own satisfaction lter on. even if there is no way of knowing, i would not sit back and watch.
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Posted on 04-11-06 9:22
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I would suggest all to think calmly and take extreme caution on any stand you take. It is very easy to get persuaded by the pictures, propaganda and the slogans crafted by the corrupted leaders which will only benefit them, maobadis and ultimately the royal regime. We all need to be careful and not get persuaded and not fight among ourselves. Nepal doesn't have visionary leaders nor the leaders who care for it but it does have citizens who can take rational decisions when the cities are going amok.
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Arko
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Posted on 04-11-06 9:35
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You try your best. right? I am doing the same thing. You should not sit back and relax. There should be transparent movement of money. I had written in previous post that everything should be clearly spelled out how this will be carried out. How it can be tracked later on. Bad people can be anywhere. People made money out of Katrina disaster too. They just collected money from the Internet. In that sense, you are perfectly reasonable.
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Posted on 04-11-06 9:42
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I copied it from Kantipur, Pathak Patra. ****************************** न्ोतृत्व जिम्मेवार बन्नैपर्छ ---------------------------------- चैत २८ गते नेपाली कांग्रेसका सभापति गिरिजाप्रसाद कोइरालाले बीबीसीसँगको अन्तर्वार्तामा व्यक्त धारणाप्रति केही बोल्नैपर्ने लागेको छ । जनतालाई शाहीसत्ताले अड्कलेर दिने प्रजातन्त्रमै रमाउन अर्ती दिँदै हिँड्नेले बुुझ्न आवश्यक छ, तीनका पालाजस्तो आमजनता मूक बनिरहन सक्दैनन् र जुझारु युवा नेतृत्व समस्त जनचाहनालाई बोकेर सडकमा उत्रिसकेको छ । ०४६ पछि प्रजातान्त्रिककालमा सर्वाधिक समय सत्तामा रहेका कोइराला देशलाई यो अवस्थामा पुर्याउन जति जिम्मेवार छन्, त्यति अहिलेको परिस्थितिबाट मुलुकलाई लोकतान्त्रिक गन्तव्यसम्म पुर्याउन जवाफदेही हुनैपर्छ । प्रजातन्त्रको बाटोबाट हुकुमीतन्त्रको अवरोध पन्छाउन हरपल राजतन्त्रको दुहाइ सहेका कोइराला अझै लोकतन्त्रको पक्षमा स्पष्ट आवाज दिन सकिरहेका छैनन् । सडकमा ओइरिएका जनताले सोधिरहेका छन्, भोलि कहाँ पुगिन्छ? आन्दोलनको उचाइ के हो? जनआकांक्षा उपेक्षा गर्ने कुनै पनि दललाई राजनीतिक स्थायित्व प्राप्त हुँदैन, न तिनको राजनीतिक भविष्य आशातीत बन्न सक्छ । आज चौतर्फी लोकतन्त्रको माग र राजतन्त्रको निन्दा भइरहँदा दलहरूका हर्ताकर्ता नेताहरूको द्वैध चरित्र सर्वाधिक खेदपूर्ण छ । राजा ज्ञानेन्द्रले टीको लगाएर प्रधानमन्त्री देलान् र दाम चढाएर ढोगौंला अनि यावत् समस्या माटामा मिल्नेछन् भन्ने सोचबाट पार्टी नेतृत्व अझै ग्रस्त छ । सडक दिनदिनै तातिरहेको बेला बेलैमा दिमाग नखियाए अहिलेको नेतृत्वलाई अर्को अवसर मिल्ने छैन । राजाको व्यक्तिगत लहड, सनक र महत्त्वाकांक्षालाई ठेगान लगाएर आमनेपालीको आवाजलाई मूर्त सम्बोधन गर्न अझै हिच्किचाइरहेको दलहरूको नेतृत्वले बेलैमा सच्चिएर आन्दोलनलाई सही मार्गनिर्देश गर्न सक्नुपर्छ अन्यथा उनीहरूलाई खोजी-खोजी अब कसैले नेता बनाउने छैन । राजतन्त्रको इतिहास समीक्षा गर्ने हो भने पनि शक्तिका लागि हिंसात्मक कलहबाहेक केही नभेटिँदा एक स्वाभिमान नागरिकले गर्वभन्दा लज्जाबोधमात्र गर्नुपर्छ । यहाँ त जनसाधारणले आफूलाई स्वघोषित नागरिकभन्दा पनि दरबारियाहरू जिब्रो काड्छन्, तिनलाई लाग्छ, नेपालवासी केवल मध्यकालीन रैतीसरह हुन् । श्रीशशमशेरहरू सदरमुकाम आक्रमण भएको घटना 'सामान्य' भन्न लाज मान्दैनन् । यो उनीहरूको सामन्ती शाही मानसिकता हो । एक्काइसौं शताब्दीका जनतालाई रैती र दास देख्ने योभन्दा अर्को प्रमाण आवश्यक छैन । आजको खुला समाजलाई बेवास्ता गर्दै सूचना तथा समाचार सम्प्रेषणबाट आफ्ना मुठ्ठीभर भजनमण्डली बाहेकलाई अनुमति नदिने अवैधानिक टीकेहरूको स्वाँठ शैली हेर्नलायक छ । 'मै खाऊँ मै लाऊँ, अरू सब मरुन् दुर्बलहरू' को नीति भएका राजाबाट आशा गर्ने दिन गुजि्रसके । राजा कसैप्रति जवाफदेही नभएको देख्दा भन्न गाह्रो छैन, उनी देशलाई एकलौटी स्वामित्वको प्राइभेट लिमिटेड कम्पनीजस्तो ठानिरहेछन् । उनलाई चेतना छैन, कुपोषण र झाडापखालाले बर्सेनि हजारौंले ज्यान गुमाउने नागरिक बाँचुन्जेल उनलाई कर तिरिरहन्छन् । जनताको रगत-पसिनाले आर्जेको राष्ट्रिय ढुकुटीको दोहन गर्दै निशर्मर् देश-विदेश तीर्थाटन गर्ने राजाबाट देशको भलो सम्भव छैन, अब कुनै चमत्कार पनि हुन सक्दैन । कोइरालाका व्यक्तिगत हठ र अप्रजातान्त्रिक हर्कतले आजको स्थितिमा देशलाई समाधानतिर डोर्याउँदैन, बर्बादीतिरै धकेल्छ । कटबाँसका लाठा प्रहारले रक्ताम्यजनको आवाजसमेत नसुन्नेगरी संवेदनहीन भइरहनु आफैंमा कति घातक छ, अलि समय बाँचे थाहा लाग्ला । मनोनयनजस्तो निरंकुश शैली पछ्याएर भ्रातृविद्यार्थी संगठनको गठनबाट आन्तरिक प्रजातन्त्रको दुहाइ दिँदा व्यापक आलोचना खेपेर पनि चेत नआउने हो भने आन्दोलनबाट छलिनुबाहेक कोइरालाको अर्को बाटो छैन । मेरो गोरुको बाह्रै टक्का नगरी सर्वदलीय प्रतिबद्धता व्यवहारमा उतार्न सक्ने क्षमता र शक्ति कोही विद्यमान नेतृत्वमा छ भने त्यो गिरिजाप्रसाद नै हो, जसमाथि आमनागरिक भर गर्छन् । सबै तह-तप्काबाट जनता मन खोलेर आन्दोलनमा आउन अझै हिच्किचाउनुको अर्थ हो, गन्तव्य प्रस्ट छैन, नारा मूर्त र सबैले बुझ्ने हुनुपर्छ । दस वर्षदेखिको माओवादी हिंसात्मक विद्रोहको स्थायी समाधान तथा आमसहभागितामूलक राज्यव्यवस्थाको स्थापनाको निम्ति पनि जारी आन्दोलनलाई लोकतान्त्रिक गन्तव्यसम्म पुर्याउन अपरिहार्य छ । आन्दोलनप्रति राज्यको जवाफ सडकका दृश्यहरूले प्रस्ट्याएको छ । जुलुस तथा विरोध प्रदर्शनमा सहभागी नभएका बटुवा, सञ्चारकर्मी, अधिकारकर्मी तथा आम नागरिकमाथि निर्मम प्रहारबाट राजाको -श्री ५ को) सरकार मानसिक असन्तुलनको स्थितिबाट गुजि्रएको बुझ्न सकिन्छ । विकसित परिस्थितिलाई आत्मसाथ गर्दै अगाडि बढ्नु आजको आवश्यकता छ । जनआन्दोलनको सही संयोजनविना यसको यात्रा उद्देश्यमुखी बन्न सक्तैन । त्यसैले समयमै कोइरालाले जिम्मेवारीबोध गर्नैपर्छ, स्पष्ट आऽवान गर्नैपर्छ, यो आन्दोलन कहाँ पुग्छ? डा. लक्ष्मी देवकोटा समाजशास्त्र विभाग ब्रनेल युनिभर्सिटी, पश्चिम लन्डन
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KaleKrishna
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Posted on 04-11-06 9:50
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Let us unite and partake in the happennings back home in the best way we can. One crucial but easier way is to send fund for the treatment of those injured, let me know whom and where to send the cash, I will do within my capacity. Let us also pray that wisdom prevails and no unnecessary loss of life and property happens and even if it does, remains to the minimum.
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Fund set up for treating people hurt in demos Himalayan News Service Kathmandu, April 11: Popular comedy actors Madan Krishna Shrestha and Hari Bansha Acharya, popularly known as Maha Jodi, today set up a Jana Andolan First Aid Treatment Fund for the treatment of the people injured during the ongoing people’s movement for democracy. The fund has been instituted in order to share the excessive pressure of patients visiting the Kathmandu Model Hospital for treatment of injuries sustained during demonstrations. The Maha duo has provided Rs 100,000 for the fund. The Public Health Concerned Trust (PHECT) Nepal under whose banner the Kathmandu Model Hospital is providing its services ,also provided an equal amount for the fund. Likewise, doctors of the hospital including Dr Rajesh Dhoj Joshi, Dr Basanta Panta and chairman of the PHECT Suman Shrestha provided Rs 50,000, Rs 25,000 and Rs 25,000 respectively. The hospital and the comedy actors duo have appealed to all to make contributions to the treatment fund. Can we get more details, on which account to send the contribution.
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Posted on 04-12-06 8:30
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These folks are using pictures of victims, playing with people's emotions to shake off some $$$$ off their pockets. When it comes to including all people into their organization... they want only like minded people(thats why they formed thier own ORG away from Sajha for their Republican friends). But when it comes to Money, they want it from all(even ignorant bafoon like me ? RIGHT NEPE AND POONTE ?). he he ITS FUNNY TO SEE THE POWER OF MONEY COME BEFORE IDEOLOGY. he he
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People should unite in the crisis. If you can't unite even in the crisis, then hell you are not the part of the society. For example, in a neighborhood some people fight and don't speak to each other for all of their life. However, when any of them die another one comes to help the family of the deceased one even if the latter had not spoken with them all his life when other person was still alive.
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Nepe States,"haha_payen, May I give you a piece of advice ? Learn to ignore the postings that deserves to be ignored." Yeah you want us to unite with IGNORANT SOB like this ? He is not here to help people. He is fuking here to promote himself. Being a Nepali democratic activist you should listen to everyone's voice. NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT FIT YOUR AGENDA. If we as people don't question the motives of these people be it good or bad who will ? But MORONS like NEPE WANTS TO ISOLATE THOSE PEOPLE AND LEAVE THEM OUT IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. He says he is for democracy but only for people who fit his political agenda(thats why he went to form his own org because he got too much flack here). RUN NEPE RUN CAUSE THIS AIN"T GONNA BE YO BOX OF CHOCOLATE(we will be watching you ). he he Then again MONEY TALKS BULLSHIT WALKS AIN"T IT ?(so he is aiming for that $$$ cause his bullshit didn't work)
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Updates: Where to send money 1. ADHRN (Paypal, check or money order) - http://www.trackabuzz.com/Alliance/ Checks or money orders (made out to ADHRN) may be sent to the following address: ADHRN 48-50 37th Street, #4V Long Island City, NY 11101 USA 2. Samudaya (Paypal) - http://www.samudaya.org/articles/assistance.php 3. NAC (check and money order) Please send a check to the following address of NAC (http://www.nepalcouncil.org ) and write for " Democracy volunteers" Ratan Jha NAC Treasurerer, 1600 Eldridge Parkway #3104, Houston, TX 77077 *** *** *** *** *** *** New York Rally on Friday Time: Friday, April 14th 2006, 3:00 PM sharp Place: Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, 47th street and 1st Avnue New York, NY 10017 (In front of United Nations Head Quarter) Make it to rally to support the April Uprising in Nepal ! Nepe
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Ha ha ha !! Here we go again. Nepe Cashing in on it !!! Dun Worry Nepe you will have your shot at some Kursi someday !!! he he he
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^Bathroomcoffee's mom is a prostitute...she got fukked by many men in Nepal...and used that money to send her only son to the states....and here he is, doing great things on a internet forum....bathroomcoffee, please stop....for the sake of your momma's pussy...she gave up her cunt for you...please stop.
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Kya hasayo Mr. Jonny_Blaze le.
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Johnny You back fo sum mo ? he he !! There you go with the Juvi mommy shit again. Just cause yo mamma sucks cock for a living does not mean everyone one is like that. ha ha ha Go on back to yo mama's pimp and take it up that Faggoty ass of yours. LAST TIME I WHOPPED YOUR FAGOTY ASS YOU WERE .... QUOTE" CLAIMING TO BE A RAPPER LIVIN SOME THUG LIFE(the kid has a wild imagination)" ha ha ha go on back to yo PIMP and suck on his knob like a CRACK HO suckin on that pipe.
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MeroJageer
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Posted on 04-12-06 3:03
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- CharpiCoffee Ji, You should join rappers band.
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pasu
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Posted on 04-12-06 3:25
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" NEW YORK RALLY" AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS IT A FREAKING JOKE? That's all nepalese political activists can do? Learn from your experience dumbasses. You had few rallies a year ago to protest KG's direct rule. What did you gain? Nothing absolutely nothing except making a fool of yourselves. Damn, it is true that fools repeat the same mistakes again and again and again. And all they can do it organize a rally. How about returning to Nepal and doing something there? Something constructive. What did you guys learn in US colleges? How to organize fruitless rallies? Alright previous rallies showed your competence and you passed the drill or lab or pratical workshop. Now get back to something worthwhile. Useless piece of sh*t.
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