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ganatantra
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Posted on 02-20-06 2:36
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We all are very aware about our country's present situation and if we are fail to hault the current problem and reverse it to the development of country our country will also face the same problem what some of the African countries has been facing for many years. If you are quite smart and you think that you can give your input to the 7 political parties, Maoist and Palace, please submit your Road-Map to them through Sajha.
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ladyinred
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:20
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Sanchai bro, any progress on your studies? Hope so...
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Dibya Raj Koirala
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:22
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Yes some progress, that is why I am writing some funny but realistic things. All the people in sajha are saying that I am crap. Do you also think so?
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Dibya Raj Koirala
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:26
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writing abstract just now ABSTRACT Arsenic contamination of groundwater is a major concern on a global scale. It is the most challenging health hazard in Bengal delta plain including Bangladesh, India and Nepal. Arsenic is present in groundwater mainly in inorganic forms, arsenate,H2AsO4- [As(V)] and Arsenite, H3AsO3[As(III)]. Arsenic is assumed to desorb from the surface of Fe(OH)3 when the reducing environment exists in the aquifer. The objective of this study is to emphasize the application of mass transport equation to simulate transport processes of arsenic and other background species by coupling with groundwater flow equation and conceptual model assumed above. The case studies of chemical analysis of arsenic in spring water was carried out to know the behavior of arsenic species to test the validity of conceptual model. Arsenic detection technique by using Hironaka’s Kit was employed for the chemical analysis. Arsenic is liberated as arsine, AsH3, by NaBH4 and Vitamin-C in a Test tube type Gutzeit generator. The generated arsine is passed through 10 mm I.D.-disk test paper. The generated arsine produces a yellow-brown stain on test paper impregnated with mercuric bromide or silver nitrate. The developed color of the stain is roughly proportional to the amount of arsenic (III) present.
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ladyinred
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:26
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No bro I think you are foony........i like your sarcasm hehe... keep coming... :)
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:37
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जोतिष जि तपाइ फ्रिडम को कुरा गर्नु हुन्छ , तुलसि गिरि को जस्तो राजा भनेका बिष्णुको अबतार हो र ऊनले भनेका हरेक कुरा बिष्णु का बाणि हुन्छन भन्ने कुरा लाइ पनि कतै कहि जानि नजानि कन साथ दिनु हुन्छ त्यति मात्र नभइ धर्म लाइ राजनिति को ट्रयाक मा लेर्याएर अहिले का राजनैतिक नेता जस्तै धर्म का गुरु हरु लाइ पनि कालो पोत्न चाहानु हुन्छ , भन्नुस के नेपाल मा हिन्दु मात्र छन् ? के तिनि हरु लाइ मात्र बाँच्ने अधीकार छ ? फेरि तपाइ लाइ के भन्ने , प्लिज तपाइ नै यो बारे मा एक पटक सोच्नुहोस अनि त्यति बिघ्न बुद्धिजिबि मान्छे ले भुरा भुरि को जस्तो कुरा गरेर अरु को समय खेर फ्यालदा कतै तपाइ को त्यो मस्तिष्क रुपि रेडियो ले केहि भन्दैन तपाइ लाइ कि मैले लेखेका कुरा वाइहयात छ भनेर, भन्दैन भने म भन्छु गुरु तपाइ को जरुरत पसुपति मा छ यहा होइन यदि यस्तै कुरा गरिरहने हो भने र मलाइ लाग्छ तपाइ यति खेर यहा होइन बनकालि को छेउ छाउ ध्यान गर्न बस्नु पर्ने के थाहा सत्य युग मा जस्तै कुनै भगवान ले तपाइ का कुरा सुनेर देस मा शान्ति लेर्याइदिन्छन कि ?
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Dibya Raj Koirala
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:44
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Sajhabusaima jee Yo thread ko topics pahile hernuhos ta. Ke yaha discuss gareko kura 7 political party le sunera roadmap banauchhan hola ta? Ke yo thread herera GYANE LE policy change garchha hola? .Yo ta fun garne melo ho. Thau anusar ko bhesh bhaneko yehi ho.
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Dibya Raj Koirala
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:46
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Ra arko kura sajhabusaima jee truth is bitter. Sukarat lai suruma sabaile pagal bhanthyo.
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Bandhu
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Posted on 02-20-06 2:17
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Guys, what are we fighting for. Hey Ganatantra Bro, if you need a road map, go to department of transportation at babbar mahal.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-20-06 6:19
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The best roadmap I can see is: Lease the entire country to another corporation or a country. Suspend democracy until the Nepali people are ready for it. Run a country like a corporation. Hire and fire as needed.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-20-06 6:25
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Lease the entire country to the Americans.
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ganatantra
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Posted on 02-20-06 11:25
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Dibya Raj Bhai: I don't know what is your education level, age and present profession. But, people can easily imagine that you are so child to express your views in Sajha. How can you imagine so easily that nobody see these threads? So many Nepalese journalists, political analyst use this site to get information. I just wanted to start a discuss on the topic and people will raise this issue by some means. So, Koirala bhai, if you really can give your input, you are welcome otherwise don't waste your time and effort.
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Dibya Raj Koirala
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Posted on 02-20-06 11:39
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Ganatantra Bhai or Dai(I am below 30 but above 25,what should I call you?Dai? education level-very high ), I am sorry for my behaviour.
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Persident of Nepal
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Posted on 02-21-06 12:19
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Instead of blaming for others regarding the current situation of Nepal we should start blaming ourself. As nepali we neplease people really never thought about Nepal instead we all thought about ourselves. Honestly we nepali are selfish people. We might blame for the situation of nepal to political parties and it's leaders but think about it who made those people the leaders of the political parties. Because those succers know that we nepali are selfish and murkha they keep taking advantages of us and we can do nothing about it coz we are helpless or we have got no gutts and we are very good at leg pulling game and that's the only game that we have mastered on. Now lets talk about maosist - Maosist didn't grew like this by themselves we all are responsible for it and also those maosist leaders are taking advantages of our poor and uneducated brothers and sisters. They brainwashed those poor people and showed them a sweet dream where they can enjoy eqality and infact there is no eqality in this world. There was always division , there is and there will be. Maosist are making those people that communism will really work but our poor brothers and sisters don't know maosism is a very dangerous kind of dictatorship. Prachanda is trying to replace the current dictator. Our new king Gyanendra but many don't call him as their king from their heart like they used to call late king shree panch Birendra is a stupid guy in this whole world. I don't know where is up to. He should realize that he can't be the king with support of less than 20% people of the country. I will say even less then that percentages of people. He probably forgot that his countrymen are educated now and are smart and intellegent unlike his son eventhough they studied in government schools sitting on the floor in the classrooms. Our king is the most selfish person in our country and everyone is following him. It seems like nobody really loves their mother earth. Hey all you nepali people wake up now don't let those few people rape our nepal. I don't want to see a day when our country don't exist if it even will exist it will be like suganda binako flower and swad binako gundruk. So lets rise and change ourselves first and change others. Start loving our country and realize our duty towards the country. Whoever started this thread cameup with a good idea. Working roadmap for the country is The king, political leaders, maosists, and all common people should decide one thig weather we all want our nepal to be peaceful and developed country or like somalia/sudan. After that we must think about nepal not only ourselves. We are the one who will control the future of nepal not americans, indians, or UN.
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Posted on 02-21-06 5:32
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To all Nepalese. READ CAREFULLY The best possible Road Map for Peace, Development, Democracy to - Nepali 7 political parties, Maoist and Kings as well as Corrupted Nepali Government Officials. (1) Amendment to old Nepali constitution: Nepal constitution is not democratic in term of culture and religion. It must make democratic for all. Therefore, implementation of democracy was wrong at the beginning. (2) Amendment to Royal power, rule and regulation: Royal families have power beyond and above the law and constitution. No one must be above the law and constitution. That is the reason mis-use of law and constitution. Royal family must be like Britain. It is good for Royal family and it is good for Nepali politics. (3) Amendment to Nepali Election Systems: In election, Prime-minister or Supreme President must not have more than 2 term nomination or elect. 1 term must be at least 4 years term. Election like presidential election of USA. If prime-minister is not good, he or she must go by 2nd term election. So Nepalese crooks politician like Girija, Madhav, Sury Bahadur Thapa must not practice politics in Nepal. We had enough with them. (4) Amendment to Nepali Law and Justice Systems: Nepali law and justice systems must provide protection to woman, children and natural (environmental protection). Criminals or perpetrators must get hard punishment in their crimes (corruption). Like capital punishment or life long jail terms. (5) Amendment to Nepali Employment, Education and Government Systems: All Nepalese races people must get equal opportunities in employment, education and government systems. That would be a sign of true democracy. But it did not happen since 80 Years in Nepal. Result of that the democracy failed so many times in Nepal. These matters must be balance or equal for good for all very seriously and urgently. (6) All 7 political parties, Maoist, King and Corrupt Nepali Government Officials must give their selfishness and self-profitability. All must come to main stream where country will be peace, democratic and move toward development in fast past. Because right now, All groups are running behind in their self-profits.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-21-06 5:48
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You know what, no matter whatever kind of tough laws are bought or nomatter how the existing laws are amended, it comes down to one simple thing. Will those laws and amendments(to the laws) be sincerely implemented ? The most serious problem of Nepal is not the abscence of laws but the absence of implementation of those laws. Tough laws and amendments to those those laws will have no effect until they are sincerely implemented. Who will get scared of a lion that cannot use its claws and jaws.
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Posted on 02-23-06 2:26
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I agree with you some point. But Without written good or quality law, Order, Justice System and constitution, nobody can take action against crimes and corruption. So at the first beginning it has to be written officially.... Then next important things will be implementation and action... Do you think so? It is like….. If you have money, then you will think to buy apple or do not buy apple. That is upto you. In Nepali, Law, Order, Rule, Regulation have Too many loop wholes....
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Posted on 02-23-06 7:00
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All of the three principal players in Nepal- Political Partieis, Maoists and Monarchy have seemingly enough unrighteous political issues/causes to ‘justify’ their action, relevance and existence (that might be the reason why they are termed as contemporary three forces of Nepal!). Essence of human rights, freedom of expression, multiparty democracy, independent judiciary etc. are the enough political issues which could not be out rightly rejected even by “autocratic” King and “totalitarian” Maoists in 21st century. That’s why we see Prachanda/Baburam and King preaching us “Democracy”. This is to suggest that when all these essences are curtailed or abrogated by King in the cities (20% of Nepal) and by Maoists in the villages (80% Nepal) there always lies the relevance of peaceful protests and agitation by political parties. Well! The irony is that though they claim to be fighting for the causes of democracy they themselves w/are never true democrats by any means. They need to practice true intra-party democracy before they vow to fight against autocratic King. They never realize that their selfish and anti-people attitude resulted in Maoist problem and eventually gave berth of another tyranny- KG. Maoists always try to justify their never justifiable ‘War against Nation’ saying that their war is against feudal system and for the salvation of the poorest of the poor including substantial indigenous populace of Nepal. The irony is that it looks like 99.99% of the individuals that were killed were not feudalist at all. They have committed sufficient crime that their core leaders would clean their hands stained with blood of innocent and poor fellow Nepalese. I doubt even if they come to public the soul of the innocent dead will hunt them and bring them to their graveyard sooner or later. King tires to justify his autocratic move on his own way saying that he needs 3 years of autocratic regime to bring back true democracy so that corruption and misdeeds of the leader could never be repeated. The biggest irony is that he is the most unnatural, accidental and illegitimate head of the state that Nepal has ever witnessed. He was never expected by any Nepalese to be the King of Nepal. He was not selected by the representatives of Nepal. His kingship is the result of massacre of Late King B in unusual and unbelievable circumstances. He is above the Law and has freedom not to be accountable to Nepalese citizens. He has the most notorious and hated son. By no means, a King could be a true democrat but KG is destined to establish true and functional democracy. We are going through extremely difficult situation where majority of Nepali don’t have an option to choose a credible national force that ensure their well being and freedom. There is nothing more than to hope it that in near future new leaderships with vision and national program to adequately address regional and socio-economic problems will emerge out and they get established within Parties lead the Nation.
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Posted on 02-23-06 7:25
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These discussions and these road maps are not going to help. Change comes by revolution and revolution requires blood... we can not develop when our ruling elite is trapped in 15th century... Sadly 13000 people have already died... if we had had a major revolution we would have brought change with lesser loss of life... people prefer to die slowly one by on rather than in a revolution... It is not easy as it is said... because for revolution to occur there must be some trusted leadership which is missing... I hope only one thing... I wish one army guy makes up his mission to kill gyanendra... this will save lots of blood shed... anyhow at present there is high probability of death for a person in army or police or maoists... I have already crossed 30's so I can not join army... if someone can gurantee a plan where I can sacrifice myself and kill gyane and his evil son I wont care for my life... thousands of people commit suicide for small reasons... it will be martyrdom...
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Posted on 02-24-06 10:51
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This may not be a complete roadmap though it looks better... अब यसो गर्नुपर्छ माघ २४ को 'मोही माग्ने ढुङ्ग्रो लुकाउने' स्तम्भमा नेपालको भविष्य के कस्तो हुने भन्ने विवेचना छ । दोस्रो विश्वयुद्धताका रसियन सिपाहीले जर्मन कब्जा गरेपछि त्यहाँका सुन्दरी पट्याउन स्थानीय भाषामा 'गुड मर्निङ सुन्दरी' सिकेको सन्दर्भ सामयिक छ । भविष्य नसोच्नेले वर्तमानमा केही गर्न सक्दैन । हामीले पनि भावी कार्यक्रमका निम्ति पूर्वतयारी गर्नु अनिवार्य हुन्छ । मुलुकमा तीनखाले आन्दोलन हुँदैछ ः गणतान्त्रिक, लोकतान्त्रिक र पुनर्उत्थानवादी । एक आन्दोलनलाई मात्र सफल बनाउनुछ । ०४६ को आन्दोलन अधूरो थियो, सम्झौतामा टुंगियो । ०४७ को संविधान पूर्ण लोकतान्त्रिक थिएन, केवल ऐन कानुन थियो । ०४८ को निर्वाचित संसद् अनुशासित थिएन, भीडमात्र थियो । पुनर्उत्थानवादीले अवसर पाए, मुलुकको अवस्था यस्तो हुन पुग्यो । ०४८ मा दलहरू ३० वर्षपछि एकैपटक सत्तामा आइपुगे । अत्यन्त छाडा भए । भविष्यप्रति कोही चिन्तित भएनन् । पञ्चायती प्रशासनकै सल्लाहमा दल-दलभित्र आ-आफ्नै प्रकृतिको मण्डलेकरण सुरु भयो । अनुशासनहीन, अनियन्त्रित भीड जम्मा हुनगयो । भीडबाट चुनिएका सांसदहरूको चरित्र हेर्दा कुनै पनि समय दुर्घटना हुनसक्ने स्थिति थियो । एक-अर्कालाई सिध्याउने खेल ०४८ को चुनावमै परोक्ष सुरु भएकै हो, जसको सिकार कृष्णप्रसाद भट्टराई हुनुपर्यो । ०५१ मा कांग्रेस पार्टीबाटै छताछुल्ल भयो र ०५९ मा यो लुतो एमालेमा सर्यो, परिणाम आज जनताले भोग्दैछन् । संसद् चलिरहेको ठाउँमा एक सांसदले मन्त्रीलाई गालामा चड्काए, उसलाई कारबाही भएन । संसद् मूकदर्शक भएर हेरिरहन्छ । त्यस्ता सांसद र संसद्बाट मुलुकले के आशा गर्ने ? यो सबै पुनर्उत्थानवादीले हेरिरहेका थिए । मौका पर्खिरहेका थिए । अब कांग्रेस लगायत सबै राष्ट्रिय दल जनआन्दोलन, संविधान र संसद्प्रति प्रतिबद्ध र इमानदार रहनैपर्छ । जनआन्दोलन फेरि पनि सम्झौतामै गएर टुङ्गएि लोकतन्त्र होइन, मुलुकमा शासनभन्दा कठोर निरंकुशतन्त्र लादिन सक्छ । ०४७ को संविधानलाई कसैले संसारकै उत्कृष्ट भन्लान्, भने पनि । साँच्चै यो उत्कृष्ट थियो भने किन आज निष्त्रिmय भयो ? संविधानमा कम्तीमा ४ वटा कमजोरी देखिए ः प्रस्तावनामै संविधानमा संशोधन हुन नसक्ने ४ बुँदा राखिनु, राजालाई सेनाको परमाधिपति पद दिनु, धारा १२७ को स्पष्ट व्याख्या नहुनु, श्री ५ ले वा श्री ५ बाट भन्नेजस्ता शब्दको प्रस्ट व्याख्या नहुनु । यसले राजालाई प्रशस्त खेल्ने ठाउँ दियो, जसको फाइदा पुनर्उत्थानवादीले लिँदै गए । अर्काे संवैधानिक कमजोरी थियो राजसभा, जसको आवश्यकतै थिएन । जनता दलहरूको आह्वानमा भन्दा पनि आफ्नै भविष्यका लागि अन्तिम लडाइँ लड्न तत्पर हुनुपर्छ । यो लडाइँपछि प्राप्त अधिकार प्रयोग गर्न तिनले दलहरूलाई निम्न अनुशरण गर्न बाध्य पार्नु पर्नेछ ः १. अबको संविधानमा राजाको अधिकार शून्य हुनुपर्छ । राजा सैन्य प्रमुख होइन, संसद् बनाइनुपर्छ । संविधानमा अपरिवर्तनीय प्रावधान राख्नुहुन्न । राष्ट्रिय गान जनताको नाममा समर्पित हुनुपर्छ । अस्पष्ट धारा राखिनुहुन्न । राजसंस्था सेरेमोनियल बनाउनुपर्छ । राजपरिवारमा राजा, रानी र युवराजमात्र हुनुपर्छ । यिनका रेखदेख र खर्चबर्च, सुरक्ष्ाा सबै प्रधानमन्त्रीभन्दा १० प्रतिशतमात्र बढी हुनुपर्छ । यिनलाई करको दायराभित्र पार्नुपर्छ । संविधानमै ०१७ सालदेखिकै भ्रष्टहरूलाई -आर्थिक, राजनीतिक र सामाजिक सबैमा भ्रष्ट) कडा कारबाही गर्ने स्पष्ट व्यवस्था हुनुपर्छ । २. संविधानमै सांसद अनैतिक हुनबाट रोक्न ऊ चुनिएको दलको निर्देशन वा ह्विप नमान्नेलाई तुरुन्त पदमुक्त हुने व्यवस्था गर्नुपर्छ । बहुमत दलबाट प्रधानमन्त्री बनाई संसद् बाहिरका मन्त्रिपरिषद् निर्माण गर्नुपर्छ । जसबाट चुनावमा हुने गुण्डागर्दी, पैसाको खेल रोकिन गई जनपि्रय व्यक्तिमात्र जनप्रतिनिधिका रूपमा निर्वाचित हुनेछन् । साथै बढीमा २५ जनाभन्दा बढी मन्त्रिपरिषद् हुनुहुँदैन । सांसद संख्या १ सय ५ मा झार्नुपर्छ, राष्ट्रियसभामा २५ जनामात्र रहनुपर्छ । ३. बहुमत प्राप्त सरकारले संविधानमा रहेको अधिकारलाई मुलुकको हितका लागि लगाउन आफूले पाएको अधिकारको दुरुपयोग नगरी विकास निर्माणमा मात्र लगाउनुपर्छ । प्रधानमन्त्री हुनेले त्यस्ता मानिसलाई मात्र मन्त्रिपरिषद्मा राख्नुपर्छ, जुन व्यक्ति सम्बन्धित मन्त्रालयको पूर्ण जानकार रहुन् । भ्रष्ट भनी गन्हाएका वा पूर्वकर्मचारी वर्गबाट मन्त्रिपरिषद्मा ल्याउन नपाउने व्यवस्था गर्नुपर्छ । मन्त्रिपरिषद्मा रहने व्यक्ति पूर्णरूपमा संसद्प्रति जवाफदेही हुनुपर्छ । प्रधानमन्त्रीप्रति अविश्वास राख्न सम्बन्धित पार्टीको संसदीय दलको स्वीकृतिबाट मात्र पाइने व्यवस्था गर्नुपर्छ । अविश्वासलाई साधारण बहुमतबाट पारित गर्न सकिने व्यवस्था गरिनुपर्छ, जसले गर्दा प्रधानमन्त्री आफ्नो पार्टी र प्रतिपक्ष्ाबीच सधैं लचिलो रहन बाध्य हुनेछ । ४. मुलुकलाई ३५ जिल्लामा परिणत गरी अहिले भइरहेका गाविसलाई दोब्बर बनाउनुपर्छ । काठमाडौं उपत्यकालाई एकमात्र महानगर बनाई स्वायत्त शासन अधिकारबाट सञ्चालन हुन दिनुपर्छ । ३ सांसद क्ष्ाेत्रभित्र पर्ने तर जिल्ला विकास अन्तर्गत नराखी स्वतन्त्र क्ष्ाेत्र घोषित गरिनुपर्छ । कारण गाउँमा जागृति नआएसम्म देश विकासको लहर आउन सक्तैन । जति सानो गाउँ हुन्छ, त्यतिमात्रामा जनसहभागिता बढ्छ र विकास निर्माणमा सक्रियता प्राप्त हुँदै जान्छ । जिल्लाले त्यसको समन्वय गर्छ । जिल्लाको प्रतिनिधिलाई जिल्लाका विकास निर्माण गर्न सम्पूर्ण अधिकार प्रत्यायोजन गर्नुपर्छ । राष्ट्रियस्तरका बाहेक जिल्ला वा गाउँस्तरीय योजनालाई केन्द्रीय सरकारले बजेट विनियोजन नगरी सोझै जिल्लामा एकमुष्ठ रकम विनियोजन गर्नुपर्छ । प्रत्येक जिल्लामा कम्तीमा एक अर्ब रुपैयाँ विनियोजित गर्नुपर्छ । विनियोजितमध्ये १० प्रतिशत रकम सम्बन्धित जिल्लाका सांसदको स्वकीय हिसाबले विकास निर्माणमा खर्च गर्न पाउने र बाँकी रकम जिल्ला परिषद्को निर्णयले गर्ने व्यवस्था गरी अधिकार विकेन्द्रीकरण गर्नुपर्छ । केन्द्रीय सरकारले चाहिँ बजेटको ५० प्रतिशत राष्ट्रिय प्राथमिकता प्राप्त योजनामा लगानी गर्नुपर्छ । अब बन्ने सरकारले पहिलो कार्य कर्मचारीमध्येबाट ५० प्रतिशत कटौती गरी कार्य सुभारम्भ गर्नुपर्छ र बाँकी रहेका सक्ष्ाम कर्मचारीको तलब-भत्ता दोब्बर गरिनुपर्छ । कर्मचारी भन्नाले प्रशासन, सैनिक र प्रहरी सबैलाई समेट्नुपर्छ । - हरि सिम्खडा महासमिति सदस्य, नेपाली कांग्रेस (Source: Knatipur)
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Posted on 02-25-06 7:13
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I totally 100% agree with "topheroni3". This points must be complete before any new political change or new democracy. This is true democratic workable road map for Nepal and 7 political parties, King and Maoist as well. Is not it?
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