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gwajyo
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Posted on 10-06-05 11:20
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Does anyone of us are aware that we still have RANA REGIME and we're gonna make them more powerful. Dr. Giri is distributing National Park's land to RANAS. Govt. is following RANA's RULES my imposing more tax on books so that it makes people harder to get new books and get better insight and be aware of the situation at Nepal.
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Hushpuppy
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Posted on 10-06-05 5:15
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everybody was disciplined in Rana regime..unlike today's bheda bakhras... Ooopsy.. hell no... democracy is good for all people..specially for girls ....imagine having to live in a kalkothari fo rthe rest of your life ..because the Sun might envy you..shit I would never wanna be a houseworm for the rest of my life..it was definitely worse for girls back then..worse than the Muslims..
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iZen
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Posted on 10-06-05 5:16
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That is what I learned in school.That is what nationalistic education does to you.I agree.What is the truth then.
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Gautam B.
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Posted on 10-06-05 5:39
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iZen, all the rana prime ministers were criminals. Most of the times, one went to the post by killing his predecessor or forcing him out. Junge started it with too much of bloodshed. But again, rana regime started due to foolishness of the shah dynasty. Starting from Rana bahadur shah, every king was more or less mad. Coming to Surendra Bikram Shah, he was completely mad. He created Junge. Among Rana prime ministers, only Dev ShamSher was comparatively liberal. He tried to educate people. He sent the first batch of nepalese students to overseas for studying modern technology. That's the reason he was kicked out of the post of Shree 3 by his clan. I think he was the shortest serving rana PM. After 2007, though they didn't have so much direct rule, but some of them are still powerful. One of the sources of their power till now is their marriage relation to shahs. They, along with shahs and other few BHARDARS still hold majority key posts inside RNA and have very much command over it. That is the reason why RNA never developed into a fully professional army.
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 10-06-05 6:17
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Thank you all for educating me on that. I have one more question: I also heard long time ago that a king killed his own son early in the morning somewhere near palace. I am not sure but is something like that happend in nepali history that any one of you know??
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Hushpuppy
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Posted on 10-06-05 7:20
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when hitler was ruling not only the germans but half the europeans belived that he was a good leader.. same was with Nepolean same with George Bush but when they are out of power and their Opposition win, the story gets turned out...history changes...people mock people... boys and girls welcome to the Power Game.. Imagine if Girija was to rule Nepal for the next decade or so.. Only Bahuns would be billionaires and the rest suckked up into oblivian There'll always be certain gagan Thapas, trying to benefit from all or any situation be it the Ranas Shahs or Prachandas... So boys and girls the real players are these Thapa like people - benefitting the best of any situation and then they are so smart that they do not have the ballls to say 'I am the instigator' not Prachanda or Girija.. very very funny..the real motive for freedom and development gets faded away in this power struggle..in the end everybody is a loser for who is going to own up for all the miseries of Nepal and its people??? Nobody. The blame then goes to the Jantas..It's a vicious vicious circle...
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iZen
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Posted on 10-06-05 7:28
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Thank you Gautamji for the info.
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gwajyo
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:04
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I agree wiath Gautamji; The history that we learned in high school of Nepal were distorted. Reshamji, I don't know abt the son being killed. But there're atleast two more kings except Birendra n' dipendra, who didn't get natural death. n' Izenji, you should read the novels of Diamond shumsher Rana like Seto Bagh, Basanti n' also the archives at the library of london. I heard archives contains just the opposite of what we learned in Nepal in our school. That's why all the magazines containing these articles related to these n' even books were banned even at the time of democracy. N' we become ready to die for our lovely monarchy n' the so-called patriotism. That's why some students try to protest in the streets abt nationalistic education. N' u guys can also read the books by Einstien about his theories to get better insight.
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Hushpuppy
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:06
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and there's Balkrishna Sama and so on and so forth
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Amazing
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:10
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If u wanna NO more abt RANA REGIME....all uve to do is read JUNGA BAHADARU by Shree Krishna Shrestha.........really good book. Published by K?mana Prakashan Samuha Price NRS 100 Its not dat like boring history book.....v v v interesting.....so if ur goin Nepal why not to try?
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Hushpuppy
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:13
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there are several books on kot Parva ..etc..etc..etc..too
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Amazing
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:15
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Hushpuppy Ru online? why dont we chat on sajha CHAT........?
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iZen
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:20
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I have read einstein's ideas and opinions.How is it relevant to rana regime?Gwanjyo..
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gwajyo
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:28
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IzenJee Einstein is against nationalistic ideas n' the ideas behind EU has probably originated from Einstien n' his mates. But we don't have such capacity to think broad. We're happy inside our confined space. What nationalistic education n' Rana regime does is that it makes us to make us feel proud abt our country n' makes us ready to die for our country. While we're really not dieing for our country, we r dieing to make the leaders or kings get fatter. That's what is also happening with Jihadis. Ranas knew that. THat's why they managed to rule us for more than 104 yrs. We're very conditioned with our petty stuffs. See at my posting on ANIMAL SACRIFICE. People r saying it's our culture. That's what it does. It makes us BLIND. It stops us to see the clear picture n' takes us much farther from the TRUTH.
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:31
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Thank you again for the history education. In Indian school I have only learned Indian history. I really need to read nepali history. It is just very interesting and sad in somewhat. Ok, I have heard so much about Kotparva, what is this???
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iZen
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:36
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Gautam B.
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Posted on 10-06-05 8:56
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By the way, as this thread is about Rana Regime, if you are interested in Nepalese history and want to know about the Junge's rise to power and therefore Ranas',there is a very good book by BABURAM ACHARYA, titled "फेरि यस्तो कहिल्यै नहोस्" . This book is in very good and easy nepali language and it is very interesting to read. I think you will finish it in one sitting.
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gwajyo
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Posted on 10-08-05 12:19
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Gautamji, I'm sorry but i don't want to read that book. If baburam really understands 'kotparba', then he won't be promoting all the killings going around. Actions speak lounder than words. His action is enough to tell me what kind of politics he wants. So we should choose carefully what to read; to some people it can even be harmful.
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Gautam B.
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Posted on 10-08-05 7:37
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gwajyoji, how can you say that Baburam Acharya promoted killings? Have you mistaken him with BABURAM BHATTARAI, the maoist leader? My friend, BABURAM ACHARYA is one of the most famous historians of Nepal, he is called ITIHAS SHIROMANI. He died some decades ago. And if you want to know about Nepalese history, you can rely on his books. We can talk about it later after confirming whether you are mistaken or not.
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gwajyo
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Posted on 10-08-05 8:23
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Posted on 10-09-05 10:51
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Well, Gautam B., as I know history of Nepal (recent) RNA's two consecutive chiefs are Thapa rather than Rana (no insinuation, just citing the facts). Even the political parties now a days compromising our nationalities are not better than any historic wrongdoers. The dark age of Rana's was sure a backlash in Nepal's progress, though.
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