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ashu
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Posted on 08-14-05 2:58
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Predictions: 1) Girija et al (all the Congressi netas) will say nothing against these charges. Removal of Gagan Thapa means less competition for all of them. It was Girija who unceremoniously threw out Gagan from his elected post for reasons Girija NEVER made public. 2) UML et al will say nothing too. 3) Lawyers at the Nepal Bar Association will say nothing. The new Chief Justice is already charming them by saying all the 'right' things. 4) Nepal's famously and sadly fractured human rights community members (MOST -- and NOT all (for there some really good people too) -- of whom are ex-political karya-kartas who, in their 30s and 40s, found nice well-paying and vaguely respectable NGO-ish jaagir in the human rights field) will say nothing against this charge-sheet. 5) Journalists will continue to report stories about Gagan -- but more as 'personality' stories in the vein of 'hey-he-is-my-friend-from-the-TC-days' than as serious, thoughtful and probing profiles. 6) Meantime, free speech continues to get assailed in Nepal. Surely, it's time to start an ACLU-style Nepal Civil Liberties Union, and raise strategic hell throughtout the world (by use of fund-raising, money, contacts and the media). Any takers? oohi ashu ************** Sedition charge filed against Gagan Thapa KOL Report KATHMANDU, Aug 14 - The government on Sunday filed a sedition charge sheet against Gagan Thapa, the former general secretary of Nepal Students Union at the Special Court for shouting anti-king slogans at one of the mass meetings held by a civic society recently. A three-year jail term and a fine of Rs 3000 have been demanded in the charge sheet filed against him as per clause 4 (1) of the Offence Against State Act-1989. (hb)
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snakebite
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:26
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hushpuppy, u must decide if you wanna "peace out" or keep on going with this thing until I know your phone number, see your photograph, and memorize your mailing address. The reply above was for Dalli Resham, I haven't included you anywhere in that posting. and I understand the meaning of "Peace out"... You and your Jive talkin', hush puppy!!! grow up or just hush hush!! (Irony, her name is hush, and she just doesn't know where to hush)... puppy shame shame..
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Hushpuppy
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:28
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Hushpuppy
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:28
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GORKHALI-X
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:34
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HushPuppy, You talk too much for a chick with a cat.... Women like you should shut up!!! you are good in bed that's it. The reason I am saying this is you are very negative woman. Who gives you the right to say that other gurl is dumb. What the fcuk you think??? you are better than all the other girls who support democracy and not just one party like you and Nepe. Biatch you need to shut up..........Before you get raped by some niggas for talking too much and acting like a feminist. Biatch go to nepal and talk like the way you talk, and see how people react to your words and idea's. What makes you think all the people in nepal support your ieda, support your idea of kicking the king out and putting some neta on the seat as the presiden or whatever..... Girl just because many people stay at home and not come on the street to protest is because they got better things to do than come out on the street and shout like crazy dogs. Peace Out p.s. lets hear form your side, I still think you are a chick who needs a big dcik....randy
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:40
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Sankebite, I am not interested in your lecture and keep it to yourself. All I was trying to say that why you guys like to go out with bedeshi girls. I do nto care what you think and do in your personal life becasue I have the wonderful like and I do not have to go to the club just to get a partner to sleep with me. I have better things to do in my life than abousing my body by not controling my desire. By the way, Get more drunk becasue man like you cannot have fun without getting drunk.
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:40
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Sankebite, I am not interested in your lecture and keep it to yourself. All I was trying to say that why you guys like to go out with bedeshi girls. I do nto care what you think and do in your personal life becasue I have the wonderful like and I do not have to go to the club just to get a partner to sleep with me. I have better things to do in my life than abousing my body by not controling my desire. By the way, Get more drunk becasue man like you cannot have fun without getting drunk.
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prajatantra
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:47
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Ashu I agree with your predictions... 1 & 2) I do not care and do not expect these political leaders to support Gagan, becuase these leaders are just self centered corrupt leaders ... they are Leeches who are sticking on to the party president chair and sucking the blood of own karyakartas.... Gagan is fighting for true democracy... that has no influence of monarch/corrup leader or maoist... While Girija/Makune are just fighting for share in blood monarchy is sucking from nepal.... 3 & 4) I wonder why Nepal Bar Association/Human Right organizations are quiet about this false charge... But let me give a brief flash back to Subodh Pyakurel, Sambhu Thapa and Gopal Siwakoti that... if this illegal govt. can charge Gagan with anti-nationalist charge same can be done to all 3 of them.... We have heard and we posses the audio clips where you came to US and scolded king... So if you think charges against Gagan is right, they should go and file a chargesheet against themselves too... 5 & 6) I think journalist are bringing up this story, but as you said not in effective way... I feel they are just using it as a stick write something agianst monarchy... Parties are still ruled in undemocratic way by undemocratic forces in central commitee, we cannot expect them to run the country in democratic way... general public and studens should fight first to bring democracy inside party and its sisterm organization.. So that people like Girija can not fire leaders like Gagan anymore just because Gagan did not agree to lick Girija's foot......
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GORKHALI-X
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Posted on 08-14-05 11:56
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SNAKEBITE YOU DUMBASS, YOU NEED TO SHUT UP AND STOP MAKING AN ASS OF YOURSELF, READ WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN WRITING..... BEWARE OF SEX YOU WILL GET AIDS...LISTEN TO DALLIRESHAM AND CONTROL YOUR DESIRES OR IT WILL LAND U ON A HOSPITAL BED WITH NO CURE.... SOLUTION WEAR 2 CONDOMS WHEN YOU HAVE SEX OR FIND A NICE GIRL LIKE DALLIRESHAM AND SETTLE DOWN SHE WILL BE GOOD FOR YOU.............
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:01
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Gorkhali -X, Snakebite will be the last person on planet I would like to settle with. There is NO way at all.
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snakebite
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:04
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Dalli Resham, why lie to my face? If you were not interested, you wouldn't have started it in the first place. It's like declaring "I won't have sex before I get married" and then saying "I banged her brains out last summer". Know what I mean? Are you getting it or do I have to come again? Read your line again and you will know what I am talking about ... here you go >>> its in bold >> I am not interested in your lecture and keep it to yourself. All I was trying to say that why you guys like to go out with bedeshi girls. . In other others, you just want to speak but you wont' let me speak. Why I'd like to go out with a bideshi girls? It's personal, do I have to tell you? Okay, One of the reasons is, I like long legs. Hope you don't find that offensive. You asked me, I replied. And no, I don't like to go out with every bideshi girls, definately not with large women. No, it's not about descrimination, its about choice. It's little more than saying "I prefer Michelle Pfeiffer to Kirstie Alley". It's very personal thing, its my choice. If you do not care what I do in my personal life, then why are you pissin' and moanin' about it? You don't have to go to the club to get a partner? Okay, it's your life, why would I care if you pick up guys at the end of dark alley at the middle of the night. I have better things to do in my life than abousing my body by not controling my desire. What does that mean? I don't have better things to do than go out, get drunk and try to pick up chicks. Are you jealous of me? As far as you are not paying for my drinks bill you shouldn't be worried about how much I drink. I drink a bucket, but I don't bullshit. I bang chicks, but I am honest. I don't PREJUDGE. Just because I supported mahili doesn't make me King Supporter. (Hope she got this). I hate communism doesn't make me CONGRESS. I don't like INDIA doesn't make me China Supporter. I drink doesn't make me alcoholic. The day one understands it, it will be easier.
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prajatantra
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:09
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Mayalu Keti, you say: "DO NOT FOLLOW crooks like Girija Koirala, Deuba and Surya Bahadur Thapa." How do you think by supporting current regime you are not supporting crooks? 1) Convicted criminal like Jagat Gauchan is a minister of current cabinet 2) Not convicted but obvious Killer and gun totting person is Crown Prince 3) Person like Dan Bhadur shahi, Niranjan Thapa whose had is deep soaked in blood with numerous nepalese freedom fighter are minister in curren cabinet... How is supporting all these crooks different from supporting girija / makune? You said for last 10 years girija/makune/surya bahadur just did corruption and should not be supported.. Isnt that case true for all mantris and leaders during 30years of Panchayat and 104 years of Rana rule... So how can you claim one to be worst over the other for the same type of crime... For me all these people are equally corrupt and criminal... I say Palace is not free from this corruption crime either... Palace is the biggest criminal who let leaders in Rana/Panchaya/ Fake Democracy to commit crime against nepalese and in return it collected its share from their chamcha criminals... It is sad but till today palace is involved in crime and corruption, they increased the palace budget by millions without any valid reason... and explanation... Poor people of nepal are suffering from starvation due to deterioting economy of country but still our palace finds money to buy jaguar, Harles and ATV to add to their fleet of motor vehicles... ISN'T THIS CORRUPTION? For me Gyanendra is equally corrupt as Prakash Man and Sher Bhadur and Girija and Makune... If Nepal was a true democratic country same law could have been applied against Gyanendrato send himto jail too " If anybody looking for career oppertunity in Nepali politics, must get punish by death" This is very objectionable comments, it is not politics or parties that is soaked in crime, it is the current leaders like Girija and Makune who are soaked in crime... we should fight to change leadership in party and bring in true democratic leaders.... Mayalu Keti, I have nothing more to say that wake up open your eyes ,if you do not want to support criminals and corrupts you cannot support Gyanedra and his regime/ Girija/ makune/ Baburam/ Prachanda and many more and their chamchas..... we should bring in democracy to country and punish them all.... Its sad but none of ruling/ fighting force still realize that we are pushing our country to the edge,, from where it can either be a failed communist state or afghanistan or Iraq or Bhutan....
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:11
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Kudos Ashu, once again you have scooped a big story.
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:12
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Guys did you know? Panchayat is back. Trust me. Because Ashu says.
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:17
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Good for you !!!!! have a good one!
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snakebite
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:21
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Gorkhali, I'd rather die of AIDS than traumatise my whole life living with someone like Dalli Resham. Thanks for the advice tho, haven't failed to use condom yet. >>Gorkhali -X, Snakebite will be the last person on planet I would like to settle with. There is NO way at all. Where did Gorkhali say that? Anyway, who said we are going to settle? And what's wrong with me anyway? lol, you are prejudging me without even seeing or knowing me. Pre-judge = prejudice!! Got it? I have full hair on my head, and its black, I have decent muscles, I am educated, I work, make my own living, I am taller than average Nepalese and If I were in Nepal, I was a kind of guy you could take home to your mother and be proud to say "Mother, this is Snake Bite and he is the man I am in love with" and You would make your mother proud. Just because I drink and I slept with girls make me a bad person? Is that a joke? In the same tone, All the girls who had premarital relationships are bad girls? Free your mind Dalli Ressham. And never wish anything... They might come true.
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:25
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Snakebite, I was trying to stop but you keep going . Leave me alone.
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snakebite
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:34
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Dalli As you Like it. I told ya, don't wish, cause it might come true. And here it goes, It comes true. I won't reply anymore to you. So, chill out!! Just don't try to change other people, you are not a God. bye.
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Dalli Resham
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Posted on 08-14-05 12:42
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What will come tru???/ You talk so much shit .
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Posted on 08-14-05 1:29
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To the original theme of the posting I am for it because I believe ONLY the leadership of the civil society has got the moral prowess to- 1. Lead a republican revolution because all other parties/folds lack the trust of ppl inside and/or legitimitacy to the external powers in the outside. 2. Interim administration: To accomodate all the warring parties and pursue them for a new democratic constitution is possible only through a neutral leadership, sth like civil society with the help of United Nations etc. Otherwise, even constitution assembly or whatever alike will again be played upon, messed and crapped up. Also the leadership of the civil society is less likely to have more vested interests than the leadership of a particular party or a foreign mediator. 2. Restructuring (refabrication-?) of the administrative units like federal system or regional autonomy or whatever is a necessity for a better future. However, the current parties/folds are either visionless or pro-status-quo or aim to distort communal harmony. Only the civil society can provide an unambigious and agreeable agenda and hence a solution. 3. Command of Army: Both the current buaurocray as well as the army need to be restructured. Plus, the Maoist PLA should be integrated into the national army. "Disarming Maoists" is just an insane dream. (My personal wish is declare nepal a peace zone and dedicate its army to UN peacekeeping missions etc because never in my lifetime will the national army of nepal be able to challange the chinese and indians, so better fence our borders and reform the army to sth like development corps or UN volunteers rather than keep feeding them and buying them INSAS rifles). Anyway,no particular party can be an agreeable command to the two warring parties, so leadership of the civil society is a must. 4. One of the current problems is of extreme politicization. Professions, workers, students, almost every one from every walk of life seems to be "parti-fied" to a political party/fold and the party-interests appear to dominate national interests. A revolution led by the civil society might reduce, if not eliminate, this "party-culture". I am for such a wave of pro-civil campaign. Keep rolling...
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Posted on 08-14-05 1:32
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This looks like a clash of civilization (very similar to the war on terrorism and Jehad). Snake bite (presumbly, a Neo-Western Nepali) seems to represent the western and Dalli Resham/Husspuppy from the Estern side. Both have valid arguments bsed upon which camp they belong. One may need to decide which camp s/he belongs and needs to respect each other. Isn't it possible not to be on either sides and make a middle way? 2 paisa ko thought matrai hai! Nevermind bothsides! Nut
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