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eNepali
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Posted on 06-29-05 6:18
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Nepe published some links to FreeNepal.org and LiberalDemocracyNepal.org I went LiberalDemocracyNepal.org, and they don't have dynamic posting methods i.e. if you want to put your opinion they won't let you do it by yourself. You you have to either go through the moderator or keep silence. It is the funny part. They call their website is dedicated to liberal democracy (udarbadi loktantra), but they are scared in letting people to put their opinion freely. What kind of liberal democracy they want to bring? Girija Tantra type, where you can criticize others for not letting what you want to do, but within your own Nepali Congress Party the same rule does not apply. Liberal Democracy Nepal people don't want to have liberal democracy within their own discussion forum (i.e. google's liberaldemocracynepal discussion group owned by the same people). It is our Nepali feudal mentality we want democracy for our closed group only and call it as democracy to people, while we keep on controling the rest of the people. My question to them is that why should they control the flow of ideas through the moderator? If they can not open their discussion forum for public, then how can we assure that they are for real genuine liberal democracy in Nepal? God Bless them. Spokesperson for eNepali Congress Party. (newly reNamed: we are searching for a good representing name: thats called keep on moving? Having fun in name. K garne Naming requires intutive capabilities and we are looking for our members to try intutive names. So, we tried 10s of names..... Anyway, its not registered yet with public officials, so lets keep on trying.... Statistically, and probabilistically e.g. half rule, you will finally find a good name in due time. I am wondering whether we need to put eNepali National Congress Party or eNepali Liberal Congress Party).
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Nepe
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Posted on 07-01-05 3:02
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dc_girl, Here are the titles of the latest threads running at nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com. Hope they manage to attract you. . . *Editorial in today's Kantipur *Nepal: Managing A Merger With India *Must We Subordinate? No we do not sub-ordinate *Defenders of different kinds *realignment of political forces, are we headig for republic of nepal *Health and HUman rights Report on Nepal *here is full Kabita. It is worth reading! It is some kind of wonderful! *A perspective on Nepalis in the US, in case you missed it in KTM Post *State of State by CK Lal- Do not cry for me! I am just a *Disturbing news from Nepal, if you have not seen it *Corruption and democracy-again *Lowti's book review *Monarchy versus Democratic Republic *why blame the maoists? *Interesting comments from the US Ambassador *Action items *RC Poudel in kantipur *Congressional hearing on Asia and the Pacific - June 14, 2005 *Not that academic qualification ensures your success in *Two op ed article in toadys's Kantipur. *Democracy and peace by Nilamber Acharya *What the list of Bhardars tells us ? *Action items - One simple idea- In support! *feualism and ....... *REturn to democracy *US Nepal links roughed up in golf diplomacy spat *Who is in control? *article worth reading *analysis in kantipur *Birth of Nepali American Legal Defense Fund *What do we make out of this? *There is a MIddle Path * Second generation leaders views different? *Kantipur satire *GPK Q&A *Amnesty says stop all military aid *Press Coverage Increasing *Reviving Voice of America *here is what koirala said *REMEMBERING THE DEAD OF JESTHA *the growing regional impact of Nepali maoists *Just in case you missed- twisted metals and bare slippers! *Voices from Nepal: Could not ignore this voice! *Chitwan Horror: Condemnation alone, not enough *Peace Plan for Nepal - by a Canadian activist *Chitwan horror! *political devolution *ANA Press Release
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Posted on 07-01-05 3:20
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Yesterday, I tried to register myself with my real name. Oops, there is nothing about Sifarish from someone. There is no guidance excenpt you enter your nickname. If the group owners were for real democracy, they would have at least allowed to see the discussions. Its like a gangster's group, I wonder whether I can leave once I join it. I hardly believe that its for Democracy in Nepal. Though Nepe ji claims that its better than Liberal Democracy Nepal, I hardly see it any better than dr. Bohara's discussion forum. If I need someone's sifarish to join a forum that claims to be working for democracy, I will say "No thanks". eNeka
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Nepe
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Posted on 07-01-05 3:40
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Guru, You are confused. I was comparing the websites of LDN and FreeNepal in terms of design and simplicity. That's all.
nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com is a separate, independent and spontaneous group. It does not belong to LDN or FreeNepal, for that matter. It's true some people from LDN and probably from FreeNepal too are active in nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com. However, it's a separate and independent discussion forum and there are people from all walks of life and faith active in it. बुझ्नुभो ?
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eNeka
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Posted on 07-01-05 4:15
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Nepe sir, Tyati lato ta nasamjhan na ho. LDN ko google group ko email address of liberaldemocracynepal@googlegroups.com ani Nepal Democracy ko email address ho:
nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com Now, hamro party ko googlegroup ko email address ho
Neka@googlegroups.com Our googlegroup is free and open. No one needs sifarish. We are not scared of getting abused. Our principal is not to judge by what can happen, e.g. a police officer in US can not shot at someone who just looks like a criminal at look, therefore, the police officers in real USA and in Hollywood movies are shown to wait until last minute of him behaving abruptly and then, the police officers start firing in such a way that he will kill the person immediately. But, Nepal Democracy google forum or others, in contrary look and judge people from outlook, and decide that this person will commit a crime and jail him instantly as it happens in Nepal and many other developing asian world. They have feudal Asian mentality. They make judgement from outlook, but not from real action or behavior, but from what a person wears clothes, his height, his beard, his mustache .... and there is where, our eNeka differs. You are free to join.... I only wonder whether eNeka will be liked whether its supposed to be members themselves suffer from feudal mentality. I will not be surprised for the lack of membership, but I am wondering the lasting credibility of the forums where closed members watch the members' outlook and control while they want to establish democracy in Nepal. These people are GirijaTantra badies and they will finally end up doing HP for themselves..... GirijaTantra, for me is as follows: Girija wants democracy in Nepal to remain in power in HMG as well as in Nepali Congress. In Nepali Congress, he won't let others have the same right as he has and he want to have full control until his death, while want to call for democrayc in nepal. This is where GirijaTantra has failed in the search of free and fair open democracy for all public. Nepal Democracy forum, by requireing a sifarish is direclty or indirectly a follower of GirijaTantra. For eNeka
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Posted on 07-01-05 4:24
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गुरुजी तपाईलाई एउटा कुरा सावधान गराईहालौं । तपाई nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com मा तपाईको साझाकै शैलिमा प्रस्तुत हुनु भयो भने एक मिनेट पनि टिक्न नदिएर खेदेर निकाल्छन् है तिनीहरुले । एक पल्ट एकजनाले त्यस्तै गर्दा अवस्था यस्तो भयो कि मैले 'हैन एउटा कमिलालाई मार्न कति धेरै तोपहरु पड्काका हुन् मितज्यूहरुले' भनेर भन्नु प-या थ्यो । ल है विचार गरेर पसम । जे पायो त्यही बोल्ने प्रजातन्त्र चैं छैन त्यहाँ, त्यो चैं पक्का हो ।
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eNeka
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Posted on 07-01-05 5:04
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Nepe sir, Sabdhani ko lagi thanks. But, I am not worried about kicking out, as long as I write based on my consciousness. eNeka
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Posted on 07-02-05 7:38
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I don't think you guys will get anything from such tori laurae groups. My assumption is they are just self pleasing and self gloating bodies. May be a gossip place with khutta tanae prabititi. I hate such groups. If you have something to say then say it in public if you can, otherwise just shut up their big mouth. If they are really THULA manchase, have you read any of their public writes, so what do you think? Are they buddijibi or a bunch of jokers waiting for Sandae ko phal!
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eNeka
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Posted on 07-02-05 8:51
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Socialist, You are right. These group owners don't have guts to face their writing in public. I wish people know in Nepali: Chha Chhkka Chhatish. During panchayat time, my seniors in hostel used to tell that they did not have anything to in the evening, they could not go out of hostel because of the local gundas around campus. In those days the hostel used to be under frequent power cut off, so a group of seniors used to sing son on hostel's bardali and after long hours of singing song, when they got bored, they used to bet who is powerful.... and bet for few rupees and start Chha Chhakka Chhatish........ an open competition. The way these so called leaders in cyberspace running websites like NepalDem??????@googlegroups.com or elsewhere are forming a group of like people. So, in fact by using "INCLUSION" rule to include only the people with agreeable ideas and writings, they are actually behaving as ModernGay: entertaining themselves through chha chhaka chhatish. Chha chhkka chhattish: ६ ६ का ३६ ....
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eNeka
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Posted on 07-02-05 8:55
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Don't say it like this: Chha Chhakka Tirsathi.... Chha chhkka chhattish: ६ ६ का ६३ .... Thats not good. No offense intended. Have fun.
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eNeka
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Posted on 07-02-05 9:06
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Please include "intellectual" word in between "through .... Chha..." So, in fact by using "INCLUSION" rule to include only the people with agreeable ideas and writings, they are actually behaving as ModernGay: entertaining themselves through INTELLECTUAL chha chhaka chhatish. If they can not open their forum named "nepaldemocracy" or "... democracy nepal...." and open the membership to public what is the meaning of that word "democracy". Don't worry people, our rulers back in Nepal in last 15years and now KG groups are all doing this Chha Chhakka Chhatish biz and all are doing this for their own entertainment. So, the tripple CCC is self entertaining and they don't not partner.... Is it for survival or because of ineptness? My question to all these people who use "democracy" in nepal related websites/forums: If you can not hold the truth and make your forum open to public, better remove that word "democracy", otherwise you are just CCC type of people.
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Posted on 07-03-05 9:14
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गुरुजी, के सारो छोडिदिनु भएको ह्वाराराररारारार, नाकै थुन्नु पर्ने गरी । Anyway, 'intellectual masturbation', that's the word. However, a wrong word, Guruji. What actually happens inside nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com can be best described as 'intellectual orgy'. The difference is: while masturbation is a self pleasing solo act, orgy is an interactive group activity. The closed door policy of nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com is actually for discouraging the 'intellectual masturbators'. However, it's main purpose is to keep the 'intellectual sadomasochists' away from the group. It has no other purpose whatsoever.
nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com is not a traditional organization with a mission statement and officials. It is just a meeting venue for discussing Nepal related topics non-anonymously and in decent manners. That's all. It is open for all those who agree to use their real identity as a poster. In order to prevent people using fake identity, there was a general understanding that at least one member should know the newcomer. I don't know if it is being strictly practiced, though. As far as my personal opinion is concerned, I like it's non-anonymous form. However, I'd prefer the messages to be displayed publicly. Nevertheless, since I have seen a lot of people being more comfortable and forthcoming to put their views in a closed session than otherwise, I think it is a good trade-off. Besides, ट्याम ट्याममा त्यहाँको कुरा ल्याएर साझामा सार्वजनिक गरेकै छु, आफ्नो विवेकले भ्याएसम्म ठम्म्याएको संवेदनशिल कुरा र मान्छेको नाम बाहेक । So I would invite those who are interested in the activities of the group to join the group rather than keep speculating and criticizing it from outside. Send the request for subscription with your real personal information to:
nepaldemocracy-subscribe@googlegroups.com
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Posted on 07-03-05 12:59
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The other day i had dinner with ex mayor of cambridge city, MA and her date for the nite was a britton chum..who had been to Nepal in 1998..basically trekking in anna range in pokhara, and sight of the late king in basantapur..was his achievement...as we talked along..he was unaware of the situation in Nepal, and she wudn't listen shit..but all of us agreed on the fact people of the world are jeolous of Nepalese simpleton life...no ambitious politicians, not a loser king can bring that back...yes..a liberal democracy is what we need for Nepal and Nepalese to return to innocence..lets see how much we can contribute..wisely
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Posted on 07-03-05 1:39
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So Hush there were three of you during the dinner? cool. Tell us what happened next.
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Posted on 07-03-05 1:43
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nepe prabhu, that masturbation is purely hedonistic and not intellectual i just have to differ with you there
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Posted on 07-04-05 1:12
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नेपे ज्यू, त्यो group को intellectual orgy को दर्शन गर्न मन लागेको छ। के गर्नु पर्ला त? मेरो पनि छ - त्यो एउटा, मस्तिस्क भन्ने - अलि अलि ताकेको छ, आजकाल, कतै केही पार लागिहाल्छ कि?
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Posted on 07-04-05 7:28
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Locum, right. What happens at nepaldemocracy@googlegroups is rather head-spinning than hedonistic. *** *** *** S4JK, If you are serious and if you think you have enough intellectualibido, then here is how to join the group. Send a message with your true personal information (at least the real name and location ) to:
nepaldemocracy-subscribe@googlegroups.com and wait for their reply. That's all. See you there, then.
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Posted on 07-05-05 5:32
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Keta-Keti-ho, Nepe ji le email address liyera aaunu bho uhako innocent prayash lai ta mannai parchha. I appreciate that. But, I had sent my full PERMANENT address, webaddress, website URL to introduce me. Beside providing all those info on me, the nepaldemocracy-owner@googlegroups.com did not have guts accept my membership. As usual, like many nepalis do, he did not answer me. He just kept silence. No response. My google membership page says "PENDING", i.e. your membership is still in pending. What kind of owner is he? Let me tell you the truth, the website URL never ask you a reference is required, therefore, I told them that if you are not satisfied with all those credentials, then you can reject my membership, but I am not going to find a reference when I don't know who the hell is running this website? Should I sort out 25million nepalis name to make reference to get membership of googlegroup which calls itself dedicated to establish democracy in Nepal? Its just a plain BS. Thats why these Nepalis "so called Diaspora Praboodda Nepalis" are good in masterbating, and if this is not masterbating what is it? If its not masterbating, should not they dare to make their website public, at least allow their posting to nonMembers. At least, Dr. Bohara's LiberalDemocarcyNepal allows everyone to read their posting. God Bless them. Anyway, I am not going to be their member for long time, as long as these forums are not public. I just wanted to see upon recommendation of Nepe ji. Sajha.com is fine for me as long as San makes it a public forum. San does not put his opinion here at least in political issues, therefore, this (sajha.com) will remain a good open forum for all Nepalis. Those who like masterbating may join or form closed forums like NepalDemocracy@googlegroups.com. JaiNepal eNeka.
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Posted on 07-05-05 9:49
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Guruji, I hope they will not keep your application pending for long. Probably they were busy at ANA convention. And I do agree with you that there ain't nothing like Sajha in the whole wide world. There is one thing, however, that I will have to correct you. nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com does not claim to be "dedicated to establish democracy in Nepal". In fact, it does not claim anything. All it claims, if anything, is that it provides a meeting place for discussing topics related to Nepal's democracy to all those who agree to reveal their identity and maintain civility in the forum. That's all. Best, Nepe
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Posted on 07-19-05 12:36
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FYI. Here is what I just received about LDN: == Dear community members: We are pleased to announce the posting of the new articles on the Liberal Democracy Nepal online forum ( http://liberaldemocracynepal.org/ ). We strongly encourage you to visit the above site and post your comments on these articles. Valuable feedback on these articles will be summarized, disseminated, and archived in a journal. The first two featured articles are also published in Liberal Democracy Nepal Bulletin (LDNB), an electronic journal of the Nepal Study Center, University of New Mexico: ( http://nepalstudycenter.unm.edu/journals/LDNB/ldnb.htm ). *********************************************************************** *Feature Article: A PROPOSAL FOR NEW STATE STRUCTURE FOR A DEMOCRATIC NEPAL (in Nepali) By Mr. Narahari Acharya Liberal Democracy Nepal Bulletin (Vol. 1, No. 1, 2005) Mr. Narahai Acharya is a Central Working Committee member and a prominent leader of the Nepali Congress (NC). *Feature Article: DEMOCRACY AND CORRUPTION By Dr. Devendra R. Panday Liberal Democracy Nepal Bulletin (Vol. 1, No. 2, 2005) (with comments from Professors P. Bardhan of UC Berkeley; Norman Uphoff of Cornell; and Phil Graves of U. of Colorado, Boulder) Dr. Devendra Raj Panday is the former finance minister of Nepal, and the past president of the Nepal chapter of Transparency International (TI). He is currently a member of the Advisory Council of TI, Berlin. ******************* *Opinion Piece: HUMAN RIGHTS IN NEPAL: CHALLENGE AND A WAY FORWARD by Mr. Sushil Pyakurel Mr. Sushil Pyakurel is one of Nepal's foremost human rights activists and former head of the Nepal Human Rights Commission (NHRC). *********************************************************************** To learn more about the UNM's Nepal Study Center and its research, educational, journal publication, working papers series, seminars, and the community outreach activities and forums, please visit the following site: http://nepalstudycenter.unm.edu Sincerely, Alok K. Bohara, Ph.D. Professor University of New Mexico Jointly on behalf of LDN Editorial Management Board of the LDN forum and Editorial Board of the LDN Bulletin journal (LDN EMB: Dr. Alok K. Bohara - Coordinator; Dr. Ambika Adhikari; Dr. Anup Pahari; Mr. Bishal KC; Dr. Gaury Adhikary; Mr. Girija Gautam; Ms. Mallika Shakya; Mr. Naresh Koirala; Mr. Prakash Adhikari; Mr. Puru Subedi; Mr. Sharda Thapa; Dr. Shiva Gautam; Mr. Suman Timsina) (LDN Bulletin: Dr. Alok K. Bohara, Editor; Dr. Ambika Adhikari; Dr. Surya Subedi; Dr. Mark Turin; Mr. Matthew Ingram; Dr. Jeff Drope; Mr. Douglas Hecock; Mr. Prakash Adhikari)
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Posted on 07-19-05 7:45
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That is another kheti garnae bato ho Sathi ho yini raithanae haruko. U know the hattiko dant !
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