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sambhu_karki
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Posted on 02-04-05 5:29
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Aaye dherai neta haru Lagaye khali giddhe drishti Araute bharaute haru motaye Sarbasadharan janata dublaye Ekchoti ko shanty chetra lai Griha yuddha ma dhakele Desh ko bikash garchau bhandai Janata lai jhukyaune khel khele Sambidhan ko baisakhi tekera Prajatantra ghokna thale Dacchin ko lagaute yaar haru Nokar dekhi prasanna bhaye Ajha uni haru le bujheka chainana Desh lai jado bhayo bhane Daura nabhayeko khanda ma Sambidhan balera aago tapnu parcha bhanera Aayaou raja timi ahile Dhanya chau, muka darshak bhayera basenau Aba chau aasha ko eutai kendra Timi hamra pyara naresh Gyanendra
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Revival
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Posted on 02-04-05 11:45
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I stick back to the original theme of this thread..if you want to spit your venom there are thousands other available! Lets help nepal by uniting..Division is not going to take us anywhere at this very cruical hour Revival
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Ghaar_Jawaii
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Posted on 02-04-05 11:59
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" I agree, so do you want .............................do you want them to come to power and impose their authoritarian rule......................" Do you mean that right at this point in time, Ganendra has imposed a rule that is different from "authoritarian rule" in the areas of his control ? By the way, who can tell it's only for 3 years. What if the Maoist decide not to come for peace talks for next 10 years or worse not at all ? Well, from the experience of other countries, civil wars tend to continue for 2 or 3 or even 4 decade (Communists in Guatemala fought almost 40 year civil war, Sandanista Communists fought little less than 2 decades in Nicaragua, FARC is still fighting in Columbia for more than 2 decades, Tamils are still at standstill). "Authoritarian Rule" argument holds no water dude.
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Revival
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Posted on 02-04-05 1:15
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OK Ghaar Jawai: I guess you can go ahead and support Sujata Koriala in this thread who wants to IMPOSE SANCTIONS to the government so that They cannot loot the aid money that Sujata and her government were able to loot for last 14 years.. Here is the thread to support her http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=19392 Rev
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Ghaar_Jawaii
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Posted on 02-04-05 1:49
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Revival dude Plz, keep in mind I dont mean to support either Gyanae or any so called constitutional political parties and its associated members.
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suvachintak
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Posted on 02-04-05 1:54
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Ghaar_Jawaii sala mobadi muji..............tero tuko pani te innocent manche haru ko justo gre ra katnu parne.....................tanlai jay dai kusi lagyo hola hoin jaba ti 12 jan nepali ko iraqi bata haty vo................................
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Ghaar_Jawaii
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Posted on 02-04-05 2:01
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Suvachintak dude Plz, dont get emotional so soon...I dont see any reason to blame neither Gyanae nor the Maoists on the deaths of those 12 Nepalese in Iraq. Why are you raising issue the death of 12 Nepalese in Iraq right in this topic. Is it a relevant matter to Gyanae or the Maoist ? Or were those 12 Nepalese in someway conneted to Ganae's fauuj or the Maoist fauuj...? ha ha ha ha ha ...are you some sort of out of your mind dude ?
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suvachintak
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Posted on 02-04-05 2:33
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Ghaar_Jawaii man........... 12 jan nepali ko hatya ko pani connection cha mobadi....neta haru ko ladai le gare ra jahile pani nepal band a garera nepal ma kunai manche lai basne ra kam gare ra khan istitima nara ke ko le nai ei 12 manche dal bhat khan nepal bat bahir kam garna gaye ka hun.............so are you why are you not in nepal then..................if you think maobadi is good......you dont see any future with maobadi or netas........ thats why you are there where ever the hell you are.............. yo emotion ko kura hoina hamro desh ko daju vai ko gindagi ko kura ho......
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Ghaar_Jawaii
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Posted on 02-04-05 3:17
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Suvachintak dude Dude, did Maoists or their associates personally requested those Iraqi kidnappers to kidnap those 12 Nepalese and kill them ?..ha ha ha ha ... Remember that, Iraq is NOT the only country left in this planet to go and work and no one forced these guys to choose the most dangerous country (after American invasion of Iraq) in the world at this point to go and work. More than that these 12 guys were not children ok. If you say so I feel you are more responsible than anyone for their deaths. If you were so concerned about them then why didnt you stop them by letting know everone that it was made illegal (by Nepali Government) to go to Iraq after American Invasion of Iraq. If someone people were so desperate to find work in Nepal Maoists can give them a lot of work...ha ha ha hehehehhe
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suvachintak
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Posted on 02-04-05 3:27
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Ghaar_Jawaii dude........ ya maobadi ter bou va ko le hola.................. sald kam di ye pani manche marne kam ta dincha hola ani lutne kam..................tan jahan chas tesari na pugis hola............... nepal bata bahira va ko le bachi rachas.........................
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Posted on 02-04-05 3:28
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We all are worried about where Nepal is heading, but we have to be cautious about how the media feeding us. Remember Zee TV trying to manipulate the situation in Nepal and showing clip of old video shots to present the situation of rioting which was not happening. Let?s not believe the outside media they never depict the true situation of people. Finally someone with courage has taken a responsibility to settle the matter, we need to support him. I am not a King supporter but I consider myself a nationalist and I believe he is the kind of person we need today. I have seen enough in Nepal and was partly a victim of these netas while working in government office purely as a technical person, they are never serious about the future of our country, all they cared was about their position in the party. They do not deserve to lead our country. Let?s give this king a chance, at least he has shown some courage, he is putting everything at stake, for what? isn?t this something? Let?s not get carried away by false media and off shoots of these netas. We need to support him, we might never get another chance. We gave opportunity to those netas our 15 yr?s of life so why are we so reluctant about giving 1/5-th of this time to King? Nepal is not yet ready for so called democracy, especially if it is triggered by neighboring bully.
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usofa
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Posted on 02-04-05 3:28
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Ghaar_Jawaii
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Posted on 02-04-05 3:48
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Suvachintak dude Calm down dude...take some fresh air and drink a glass of cold water..ha ha ha he Spilling venom on me is not going to help your cause in any way. "...........kam di ye pani..............." Kae Gynae ko Army lae chaii kun chaii devata ko kaam garyaa chaa ra ? Amnesty international ko website ma ja ani hernaa. Tero phuteko aakhaa lae pani charr-laanga dekchaa tero Gyanae ko Army lae ke ke garee ko raichaa bhaneraa. By the way, mero barae ma blank fire na-garr nahai..ha ha ahehh he..
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suvachintak
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Posted on 02-04-05 4:19
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Ghaar_Jawaii, Gadha if you notice army action was taken by netas and orders were given by F****ng netas kindg didnt even interfare untill now. so Dont blem It on The King. So hahahahhah......You got F***ED up A****le
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Ghaar_Jawaii
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Posted on 02-04-05 4:33
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Sivachintak dude I'm so sorrrrrrry for boiling up your brain right up to the roof... Take a history lesson and try to find out who fired Deuba for the first time in Oct. 2002. One hint I can surely give to you. The guy who fired Deuba for the first time is not from another galaxy. Keep wondering ... "retard"...
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suvachintak
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Posted on 02-04-05 4:34
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US Department of State A meeting with two US State Department officials on 2 February, Melanie Bixby, Senior Advisor South Asian Affairs, and Kristin Needler, Nepal desk officer, provided some updated information on the situation in Nepal and the US position. According to the State Department, phone lines were cut to prevent organised protests in the capital and will be slowly turned back on over the next week. The officials were candid and cordial, though they held the official line. On human rights violations, they freely admitted that the RNA was guilty, but that most of US military assistance was providing human rights training to the army, which has grown quickly in size over a short period. They did not say if anything was being put forward to hold the army accountable. The US also refused to take a position on the involvement of a third party to facilitate peace talks between the king and the Maoists. While acknowledging that the UK was in favor and India dead opposed, the US is in favor of a "negotiated settlement". They had been in contact with the US embassy in Kathmandu and Ambassador Moriarty was planning to visit the palace as soon as possible, which he has done subsequently. The US also noted that India was in shock over the King's decision and felt slighted. It's unclear whether the US will take a strong position on Nepal, as India has, though intially they have condemned the move. King Gyanendra seems to be hoping that the US and India's dislike for the Maoists will outweigh their contempt at his power grab.
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suvachintak
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Posted on 02-04-05 4:34
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On the ground in Nepal Reports are coming through that there is a widespread crackdown on dissent in the capital and in Pokhara. Political and student leaders are being targeted by the army for arrest. BBC reported that 250 were arrested in Pokhara and possibly fired upon after demonstrating. The BBC also reported that 21 members of the Nepali Congress, Nepal's largest political party, were arrested in Kanchanpur. It is assumed that human rights activists are next in line and some are being offered shelter by the Danish embassy and the UN. Phone lines have been reopened an hour or two at a time, before being disconnected. Supposedly, this is to prevent activists from organising protests. Additionally, it has prevented the three-day bandh called by the Maoists from having any affect whatsoever, due to the absence of communication. Few, if anyone in Nepal are aware that the Maoists called one. Newspapers are closed still and occupied or surrounded by security personnel, while open radio stations are permitted to only play music, because the army does not have the resources to screen all the news reports.
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Posted on 02-04-05 4:36
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What's next? From the looks of the situation, more deterioration. The buffer space for civilians and humanitarian organisations is being squeezed tighter than before in Nepal. If the king succeeds in opening space for peace talks with the Maoists, he will certainly be hailed by many Nepalis. However, such an occurrance is fanciful. While the Maoists would now negotiate with the king, which they have been demanding, there is little evidence that talks would succeed, considering the degree to which the palace and the Maoists are fighting for conflicting ends. The army seems much more interested in forcing the Maoists to the negotiating table, than in inviting them. Pyar Jung Thapa, RNA Chief of Staff, was quoted on 4 February, "If the Royal Nepal Army succeeds in reducing the military strength of the Maoists, force them into the national mainstream and help His Majesty's Government to resolve the Maoist problem, it's name will be written in Nepal's history in golden letters." He has said also, that without protests in the street, the army can focus solely on bringing the Maoists to the negotiating table or into the political mainstream. India has expressed strong doubts about the army's ability to make significant progress. Given the ability of the army to force the rebels to the negotiating table to date, it seems clear the army is focused on a faulty approach.
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suvachintak
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Posted on 02-04-05 4:39
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Ghaar_Jawaii, if you are keeping track ......do you know the reason why he got fired. and who asked for RNA assitance.......................... Dumb F***
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Posted on 02-04-05 4:44
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hhh hhe. Don't make any false assumption that the parties are finished off. I do not mean to support the corrupt leaders but parties are made up of millions of activist and supporters that live in each home of the country.WIth the exercise of democracy for years, they have the power not only to throw their incapable leaders; they can oust who ever they want with a unrestrictable flow of mass. Despotic Gyanendra has shrewdly designed a coup with the help of guns. But in a few weeks time, if the restrictions imposed against the freedom of public is not lifted, the flood of mass will dismantle Narayanhiti Palace. Mind you! the Royal Nepal Army is comprised of sons and daughters of the Nepali public. They will not always obey the orders of their bosses. Remember what happened in Ukraine, Ivorycoast or Phillipines. I know most of the Nepalese previleged to stay in the US are children of rich Kathmanduties. They obviosuly support the King for their Swartha. They don't want ordinary people to progress so they are dancing in the tune of King Gyanendra. But I suggest you to ask your favourite King not to ignore ordinary people's rights. If repression exceeds the threshold, Naraynhiti will be a rubble of riches. I am utterly angered with the overwhelming Gyanebhakti showed by these group of selfish thugs now. Shame on you to live in America and advocate blanket support to Autocracy. Someone in one of the threads had posted a picture of few hundreds gathered in kathmandu to felicitate Gyanendra. Don't you know that a party rally in Kathmandu would fill up Khulamanch?? sayajana jamma garaera janatako support paye bhanda laaj pani nalagne. Thukka paji haru. Lift the ban on rallies and see how would the mass flood in Tudikhel to express their opposition to Gyanendra. Democracy is in my blood. Democracy is in majority of the Nepalese blood. Tyranny will end soon. And this time the tyranny will be ended for ever.
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Ghaar_Jawaii
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Posted on 02-04-05 5:13
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Suvachintak dude ".....do you know the reason why he got fired.............." So at least, now you accept the fact that Gyanae is the master of Gyanae's Army, not the government at that time..right? If Gyanae were not master of Gyanae's army it would not have been possible to fire an elected govt. Isnt it ? where in the world it has been possible to overthrow an elected govt. without being a master of an army and directing it. That also means Gyanae is also responsible for killings of civillians (as stated in Amnesty International's report) committed by Gyanae's army since it is driven by the direction of its master(Gyanae). At this point you do contradict your earlier statement that goes "........army action was taken by netas and orders were given by netas......." Meaning, since netaas were/are not master of Gyanae's army netaas are not responsible for whatever Gyanae's army did in the field and the responsibility lies solely on its master (that is Gyanae). Well...you helped me more than anyone else to prove my point that Gyane is a master of terrorist army. Thank you...suc***er..hahaha hhaha hahha h
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